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Old 12th Aug 2022, 13:18
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I am booked on the outbound on 26/08, I got the email yesterday morning basically saying that although the airline had the slots agreed months ago, Edinburgh are capping the number of flights and asking the 3 handling agents to not take any extra work on.

As Aurigny are not a normal visitor to Edinburgh, they were told their summer flights were getting chopped (no mention of the winter ones).

Passengers will have to make their own plans for onwards travel to/ from Glasgow - bit of a pain for some but not the end of the world.



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Old 12th Aug 2022, 14:23
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Maybe they’d switch you to BACF service?
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Old 12th Aug 2022, 15:29
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Originally Posted by CabinCrewe
Maybe they’d switch you to BACF service?

I was heading for Ayr for the first few days anyway so it's not a problem for me and car hire was so expensive from Edinburgh so it's worked in my favour if anything as I'm not taking the return flight on the Monday.

As with Belfast when Dublin was suspended, there will be a certain percentage of people who gain from it - it's great to have Aurigny trying these things for us locals. I imagine some will ask for a refund (the options given were fly to Glasgow or get a full refund) but most will still travel.

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Old 12th Aug 2022, 17:36
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Yes I wonder if the BACF service will persist.

BA seem to be the only ‘service’ airline operating into Guernsey at the moment albeit infrequently !
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Old 12th Aug 2022, 18:53
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Were Loganair operating?
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Old 13th Aug 2022, 07:27
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Originally Posted by CabinCrewe
Were Loganair operating?
Loganair haven't operated to GCI since 2019 & I think I'm correct in saying that BACF finish their limited season at the end of August.
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Originally Posted by Jerbourg
Loganair haven't operated to GCI since 2019 & I think I'm correct in saying that BACF finish their limited season at the end of August.
Aah yes, I see the Loganair advertised route is actually a transfer at SOU.
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Old 13th Aug 2022, 12:54
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Originally Posted by Jerbourg
Loganair haven't operated to GCI since 2019 & I think I'm correct in saying that BACF finish their limited season at the end of August.
I think LCY stops around the 2 or 5 September (Can't remember which one) and then EDI is a few weeks later.

Will be interesting to see what happens next year, as if the Aurigny Embraer does go, then I could see LCY being the additional London route they have mentioned and then EDI being introduced a few times per week alongside an increase in Dublin etc to fill the time of the second additional ATR
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Old 13th Nov 2022, 23:34
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Lots of extra slots applied for and offered judging by the latest ACL reports - although how many will be used is another matter.

Additional Slots awarded at DUB, BRS, BHX, MAN and one additional weekly at LGW.

36 slots (18 pairs) awarded at both STN and LCY - the LCY report says Aurigny intends to (re)introduce a route to Guernsey so I presume STN was the backup maybe?

(BA down for a small number of slots for LCY - GCI also based on the report).
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Old 10th Dec 2022, 17:04
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Anyone know why the SOU - ACI flights keep being cancelled especially when the Dorniers still seem to be operating the ACI - GCI flights? Such an odd airline.
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Old 10th Dec 2022, 22:51
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Originally Posted by Rivet Joint
Anyone know why the SOU - ACI flights keep being cancelled especially when the Dorniers still seem to be operating the ACI - GCI flights? Such an odd airline.
Most likely to do with the weather in Southampton today, as I far as can I tell the flights were on time in the days leading up to it…
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Old 12th Dec 2022, 11:26
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Originally Posted by NewquayJacob
Most likely to do with the weather in Southampton today, as I far as can I tell the flights were on time in the days leading up to it…
Maybe but other flights were landing including from Air Alderney on an ancient Islander.
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Old 12th Dec 2022, 11:55
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Originally Posted by Rivet Joint
Anyone know why the SOU - ACI flights keep being cancelled especially when the Dorniers still seem to be operating the ACI - GCI flights? Such an odd airline.
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/gr502
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/gr506​​

One cancellation in the last week - not sure I follow?
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Old 15th Dec 2022, 13:23
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I was booked on the cancelled SOU-ACI flight last week. Delays earlier in the day due to freezing fog and needing to de-ice the runway and taxi-ways, led to an expected delay in departure, fair enough.

We were subsequently advised informally the flight was later cancelled by ops "to avoid delaying later flights". Sadly this seems to happen more often than it used to causing huge inconvenience to Alderney travellers, although Aurigny of course would deny this. Trying to run a schedule with minimal aircraft and offering a medevac service in addition make life frustrating for pilots, ground-staff and passengers.
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Old 17th Dec 2022, 20:13
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ACI is now due to get a longer runway that'll accommodate up to ATR72 aircraft...

https://www.islandfm.com/news/guerns...longer-runway/
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Old 17th Dec 2022, 21:25
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Originally Posted by jmdavies86
ACI is now due to get a longer runway that'll accommodate up to ATR72 aircraft...

https://www.islandfm.com/news/guerns...longer-runway/
Don't know how they are going to fill 'em, however.
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Old 18th Dec 2022, 13:38
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Originally Posted by kcockayne
Don't know how they are going to fill 'em, however.
I don't think it matters about filling them - key is (bearing in mind requirement to cut the Guernsey to Alderney 'PSO' subsidy by about half) to operate more cost effectively by allowing GR to move towards a simpler fleet composition, more cost effective crew establishment/training etc.
Pretty much the same as Emerald on Dublin to Donegal which is also unlikely to get high load factors since move to ATR72 operations, but is more cost effective for the carrier.
I believe carriers generally refer to such ops as "intelligently misusing" aircraft.
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Old 18th Dec 2022, 20:40
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Originally Posted by globetrotter79
I don't think it matters about filling them - key is (bearing in mind requirement to cut the Guernsey to Alderney 'PSO' subsidy by about half) to operate more cost effectively by allowing GR to move towards a simpler fleet composition, more cost effective crew establishment/training etc.
Pretty much the same as Emerald on Dublin to Donegal which is also unlikely to get high load factors since move to ATR72 operations, but is more cost effective for the carrier.
I believe carriers generally refer to such ops as "intelligently misusing" aircraft.
Thanks for the explanation, which is very useful. However, my comment is more addressed to the Alderney expectation of frequent & cheap flights to more than the present two destinations. My contention is that this will be very far from the case if ATRs are operating the services - due to their size ie one ATR = three & a half Doerniers. Seems to me that this would mean one Southampton flight per day (if that) & one Guernsey.
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Old 21st Mar 2023, 18:25
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Looks like a bit of a disasterous day for Aurigny.

The Embraer is still grounded due to a bird strike without an engine cowling and Titan were not available today so they chartered in a Blue Islands ATR to run an extra Gatwick rotation.

Meanwhile, G-OATR is in Germany on annual maintenance, and now G-OGFC appeas to have broken down in Birmingham so this afternoon's GR642/3 - GCI-EXT-BRS-GCI on G-ORAI appears to be operating GCI-BHX-EXT-BRS-GCI instead. GCI-MAN is cancelled and there are still at least 2 GCI-LGW rotations to do.

In Dornier land there has been a medical emergency in Alderney so as G-ETAC has not flown since January, they have pulled G-OAUR off her schedule to do a medical charter flight from ACI-GCI so the whole Dornier schedule is delayed too.

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Old 21st Mar 2023, 23:02
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Thanks for that. Pax often remark that Aurigny do more for them than other airlines would, and I know that to be true - at least some of the time. However the ACI situation is unsatisfactory with just one Dornier available to cover all schedules as well as medical emergencies. What happens if that a/c now becomes sick? Aurigny will be in a mess. Ah, well.... When the airfield and runway have been upgraded there will be an ATR72 available for medical emergencies.
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