Eastern Airways-3
How many more passengers are going to be inconvenienced through their booked airline relying on the services of an airline with a very poor leasing contract history? That in turn reflects on the airline they made their original booking.
The pile on is starting a bit early.
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Southampton, U.K
Posts: 1,265
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I do hope things can improve for Eastern.
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Norwich
Posts: 146
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Not really, we all know what is going to happen, Aurginy even came out publicly and said they cancelled the contract because they were so dreadful. On day 1 it's already gone to pot. It's not a case of people wanting an airline to fail, because Eastern could be a fantastic little airline, with fantastic crews that try their hardest to keep the show going, unfortunately those above let it down.
"I do hope things can improve for Eastern".
Well they've had enough opportunities thus far and still fail.
How the he'll they survive is beyond me. So many lost opportunities especially since the demise of Flybe.
Let's see how long this contract with KLM lasts for.
Surely if the current contract with KLM fails then no other reputable airline would consider using Eastern in the future.
Well they've had enough opportunities thus far and still fail.
How the he'll they survive is beyond me. So many lost opportunities especially since the demise of Flybe.
Let's see how long this contract with KLM lasts for.
Surely if the current contract with KLM fails then no other reputable airline would consider using Eastern in the future.
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Teesside
Posts: 643
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
So, a summary of day one with 14 sectors scheduled over 2 aircraft:
3 x on time arrivals
4 x Amber late arrivals
5 x Red late arrivals (more than 45 min delay)
2 x Cancellations
A roughly 20% on time performance for day one.
Tomorrow will be 16 sectors.
3 x on time arrivals
4 x Amber late arrivals
5 x Red late arrivals (more than 45 min delay)
2 x Cancellations
A roughly 20% on time performance for day one.
Tomorrow will be 16 sectors.
SWBKCB - The pile on is starting a bit early.
So, a summary of day one with 14 sectors scheduled over 2 aircraft:
3 x on time arrivals
4 x Amber late arrivals
5 x Red late arrivals (more than 45 min delay)
2 x Cancellations
A roughly 20% on time performance for day one.
3 x on time arrivals
4 x Amber late arrivals
5 x Red late arrivals (more than 45 min delay)
2 x Cancellations
A roughly 20% on time performance for day one.
Join Date: Feb 2024
Location: San Cristóbal de La Laguna
Posts: 28
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
It's a real shame as they have some great customer feedback and the crew seem to genuinely go the extra mile. However their management evidently either don't have a clue, or simply don't care.
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Teesside
Posts: 643
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
A better second day. 16 rotations.
7 on time arrivals (within 15 minutes)
4 amber delayed arrivals (delay 15-45 minutes)
5 red delayed arrivals (delay over 45 minutes)
44% on time performance.
7 on time arrivals (within 15 minutes)
4 amber delayed arrivals (delay 15-45 minutes)
5 red delayed arrivals (delay over 45 minutes)
44% on time performance.
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Teesside
Posts: 643
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
G-CMPI was a nightmare yesterday. Of the 8 sectors, only one landed on time. Many flights were not just late, but almost two hours late.
Today, the morning flights into and out of Teesside are cancelled (reason could be nothing to do with Eastern of course). That said, CMLI has been drafted in to do the Newcastle run today but even this is over an hour late (and counting).
Given most passengers on these flights are connecting, you really have to worry what this will do to reputation, confidence and loads if this continues.
Today, the morning flights into and out of Teesside are cancelled (reason could be nothing to do with Eastern of course). That said, CMLI has been drafted in to do the Newcastle run today but even this is over an hour late (and counting).
Given most passengers on these flights are connecting, you really have to worry what this will do to reputation, confidence and loads if this continues.
Last edited by P330; 3rd Apr 2024 at 12:00.
Join Date: May 2023
Location: Southampton
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Thankfully for Southampton it seems the Eastern operated flight on the Amsterdam service that was cancelled was a one off and since then has been flown on time by KLM e-jets.
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Teesside
Posts: 643
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Dorset
Posts: 677
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Looks like CMPI made it from Teesside to Amsterdam this morning and keeled over there. CMLI has gone out from Humberside to take over the lunchtime AMS-NCL-AMS rotation, presumably helping to get engineers and bits to AMS too?
Whilst not being a fan or defender of Easterns record,l think closer inspection of the current situation will find that the root of the problem will be found to be with KLM,s own internal struggles and with the slot situation at AMS.
Sadly, Easterns own reputation makes them an easy target for any current failings and of course any tech problems they encounter can only make them, their detractors easy target.
Sadly, Easterns own reputation makes them an easy target for any current failings and of course any tech problems they encounter can only make them, their detractors easy target.
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Teesside
Posts: 643
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I have some sympathy for this and KLM must take some responsibility.
But to show you how bad things are, let me show you the PM departures from NCL and MME these last three days:
KL958/2nd - 1 hour 50 minutes late
KL958/3rd - 1 hour 50 minutes late
KL958/4th - 2 hours 10 minutes late
KL966/2nd - 1 hour 50 minutes late
KL966/3rd - 2 hours 25 minutes late
KL966/4th - 2 hours 30 minutes late.
On top of this, we have had cancellations and multiple other delays. We’re only on Thursday of week one!
But to show you how bad things are, let me show you the PM departures from NCL and MME these last three days:
KL958/2nd - 1 hour 50 minutes late
KL958/3rd - 1 hour 50 minutes late
KL958/4th - 2 hours 10 minutes late
KL966/2nd - 1 hour 50 minutes late
KL966/3rd - 2 hours 25 minutes late
KL966/4th - 2 hours 30 minutes late.
On top of this, we have had cancellations and multiple other delays. We’re only on Thursday of week one!
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Norwich
Posts: 25
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Apologies if this is mentioned somewhere else but why does KLM need the extra capacity anyway, I thought they had more Embraers now than they ever had Fokkers?
Been flying the Norwich route for almost 40 years and always been reliable if expensive.
Been flying the Norwich route for almost 40 years and always been reliable if expensive.
Problems with the P & W engines. The article is over a year old, but as far as I know, 5 are still out of service. https://www.airdatanews.com/most-of-...re-not-flying/
Same engine issues (PW GTF's) affecting the new Airbus A220 as well, plus the A320Neo series are also affected by issues with their PW1100G's
Not a good look for PW
Today, the family powers three primary fleets:
A320Neo Family – PW1100G (applications are about 40 percent with remainder powered by CFM LEAP)
A220 – PW1500G
Embraer E2 Family – PW1900G
Not a good look for PW
Today, the family powers three primary fleets:
A320Neo Family – PW1100G (applications are about 40 percent with remainder powered by CFM LEAP)
A220 – PW1500G
Embraer E2 Family – PW1900G
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: South
Age: 44
Posts: 774
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Problems with the P & W engines. The article is over a year old, but as far as I know, 5 are still out of service. https://www.airdatanews.com/most-of-...re-not-flying/