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There’s plenty of space on the existing apron. Six covered walkway stands on the Eastern apron and five additional stands on the West apron. It’s a very easy task to move aircraft onto and off Eastern apron stands as required. The six or even eight possible morning departures won’t all take off at once. There will be at least a 30-45 minute period as aircraft push back off their overnight stands freeing up space for aircraft overnighted on the West apron which can be tugged across to the terminal side!!! The listed hangar won’t need demolishing nor will space around the corner be needed. Why the need to move the fire station and tower?
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There’s plenty of space on the existing apron. Six covered walkway stands on the Eastern apron and five additional stands on the West apron. It’s a very easy task to move aircraft onto and off Eastern apron stands as required. The six or even eight possible morning departures won’t all take off at once. There will be at least a 30-45 minute period as aircraft push back off their overnight stands freeing up space for aircraft overnighted on the West apron which can be tugged across to the terminal side!!! The listed hangar won’t need demolishing nor will space around the corner be needed. Why the need to move the fire station and tower?
I believe it would be easier operationally to bus passengers across to the western apron and just treat them as remote stands. Moving aircraft around on a just in time basis is a bit more involved.
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Easyjet have just responded to Jet2 Holidays news of their new base at BOH....
Latest news is that Easyjet just announced a 2 aircraft base at SOU Southampton from Summer 2025 with similar current route offerings and to include Manchester, Jersey, Corfu and Lanzarote - yay! at last something new for SOU.
Latest news is that Easyjet just announced a 2 aircraft base at SOU Southampton from Summer 2025 with similar current route offerings and to include Manchester, Jersey, Corfu and Lanzarote - yay! at last something new for SOU.
and now Exeter
Further to my post here re EXT Exeter the other day:
''Locally, EXT Exeter Airport is weak, with only TUI offering 'mirror image Packages' flying from there, with only one based 737 with no planned growth expected (TUI at EXT was to have increased to two aircraft pre-Pandemic).
Exeter are possibly at their lowest point in decades in offering Package Holidays.''
Latest news today is: EXT to gain a second based TUI aircraft.
From Travel Weekly this morning:
TUI to add a second based 737 at EXT to the Summer 2025 programme
“The airport gains a new route to Ibiza, plus year-round flying to Tenerife and Lanzarote.
Antalya, Heraklion, Paphos and Rhodes will now operate twice a week, giving Exeter passengers the opportunity to book 10- and 11-night holidays.”
This is rather good news for Exeter gaining an extra TUI based aircraft, providing an extra 80,000 seats from the Southwest airport.
There will be also be additional TUI seats from Bournemouth, where rival Jet2 and Jet2holidays is creating a new base next summer, with exclusive TUI routes to Kefalonia and Paphos.
We see Rhodes, Heraklion, Corfu and Mahon will all be served twice a week with TUI from BOH.
''Locally, EXT Exeter Airport is weak, with only TUI offering 'mirror image Packages' flying from there, with only one based 737 with no planned growth expected (TUI at EXT was to have increased to two aircraft pre-Pandemic).
Exeter are possibly at their lowest point in decades in offering Package Holidays.''
Latest news today is: EXT to gain a second based TUI aircraft.
From Travel Weekly this morning:
TUI to add a second based 737 at EXT to the Summer 2025 programme
“The airport gains a new route to Ibiza, plus year-round flying to Tenerife and Lanzarote.
Antalya, Heraklion, Paphos and Rhodes will now operate twice a week, giving Exeter passengers the opportunity to book 10- and 11-night holidays.”
This is rather good news for Exeter gaining an extra TUI based aircraft, providing an extra 80,000 seats from the Southwest airport.
There will be also be additional TUI seats from Bournemouth, where rival Jet2 and Jet2holidays is creating a new base next summer, with exclusive TUI routes to Kefalonia and Paphos.
We see Rhodes, Heraklion, Corfu and Mahon will all be served twice a week with TUI from BOH.
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TUI increase seats from BOH in 2025
- +15,000 seats over summer 2024
- Paphos will get a second flight per week
- Kefalonia will get a second flight per week
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Maersk
Looks like Maersk have now switched their previously twice-weekly flights to Birmingham. Blue City are reporting on LinkedIn that there will be three flights a week from Hangzhou (via tech stops at Navoi and Billund as before)
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BUT Bournemouth Airport isn't starting from "Little acorns"!
Bournemouth Airport is an established airport with an existing terminal. Very unlike the photo of "London Airport" which you have provided, which was probably taken in 1946. The photo and "little acorns" reference has absolutely nothing to do with Bournemouth Airport.
Bournemouth Airport is an established airport with an existing terminal. Very unlike the photo of "London Airport" which you have provided, which was probably taken in 1946. The photo and "little acorns" reference has absolutely nothing to do with Bournemouth Airport.
I was replying to a post from LTNmanwho has a sense of humour, something that you seem to singularly lack!
You made a post with absolutely no reference to who you were replying to.
Hence my post.
A photo of the tent at Luton Airport from 1973 would have been a better option.
As much as it was an immature comment to make, I can absolutely assure you that I do have a sense of humour. A good one at that. If you're post was supposed to be humorous, I got news for you, it wasn't.
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Fuel farm relocated?
Has the fuel farm relocated?
I’ve noticed car-parking seems to have appeared where the old fuel farm was located.
Car parking has also been extended to the ‘Jets’ and Embraer service centre apron too which seems to me to indicate an imminent relocation of those two companies.
Can anyone confirm?
I’ve noticed car-parking seems to have appeared where the old fuel farm was located.
Car parking has also been extended to the ‘Jets’ and Embraer service centre apron too which seems to me to indicate an imminent relocation of those two companies.
Can anyone confirm?
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Parking
I'd imagine BOH are frantically trying to create as much available parking as possible, with the Jet2 news, plus potential 3rd Ryanair for next summer, parking will be very tight, they must have been near capacity last summer.
Anyone know if they could expand into the first field on the right, opposite the school entrance? Talking of the school, it now seems even more of a ridiculous idea to have put it there in the first place, airport seems to only be getting busier now, surely not ideal for a school to have that on its doorstep.
Anyone know if they could expand into the first field on the right, opposite the school entrance? Talking of the school, it now seems even more of a ridiculous idea to have put it there in the first place, airport seems to only be getting busier now, surely not ideal for a school to have that on its doorstep.
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Could a multi storey car park be built in time for next summer on any land available or would it have to go to planning first ?
I have no idea how this works but before the Luton Airport debacle something like that could have been built ( cheaper metal frame style ? )
Otherwise the car parks need a serious makeover, I don’t think people are to happy about wading through floods , gravel and mud to get to the terminal
I believe before the ATC centre was changed into a school it was mooted that plans had been put in place to be a hotel along the Premier Inn style , however the passenger loads going through the terminal never justified that
I have no idea how this works but before the Luton Airport debacle something like that could have been built ( cheaper metal frame style ? )
Otherwise the car parks need a serious makeover, I don’t think people are to happy about wading through floods , gravel and mud to get to the terminal
I believe before the ATC centre was changed into a school it was mooted that plans had been put in place to be a hotel along the Premier Inn style , however the passenger loads going through the terminal never justified that
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I've never seen anyone get so upset about a post. I suggest you give all a rest by joining the Soton Airport group as your name suggests or is that just your sense of humour?
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Could a multi storey car park be built in time for next summer on any land available or would it have to go to planning first ?
I have no idea how this works but before the Luton Airport debacle something like that could have been built ( cheaper metal frame style ? )
Otherwise the car parks need a serious makeover, I don’t think people are to happy about wading through floods , gravel and mud to get to the terminal
I believe before the ATC centre was changed into a school it was mooted that plans had been put in place to be a hotel along the Premier Inn style , however the passenger loads going through the terminal never justified that
I have no idea how this works but before the Luton Airport debacle something like that could have been built ( cheaper metal frame style ? )
Otherwise the car parks need a serious makeover, I don’t think people are to happy about wading through floods , gravel and mud to get to the terminal
I believe before the ATC centre was changed into a school it was mooted that plans had been put in place to be a hotel along the Premier Inn style , however the passenger loads going through the terminal never justified that
Lord Malmesbury felt the land should have been leased on a turnover basis, that is too say that the Estate got a cut of the money generated from the car park. The Estate felt they should get 80% of all car parking revenue. The person who negotiated the lease with BIA felt there was no chance of the airport entertaining such a thing and to try and pursue it would sour relations and cause long term damage to the Estate. Additionally, at the time there was no way to accurately audit the car park turnover - this was still in the days when you got a voucher for car parking as part of the package holiday. So, in the end he negotiated the lease for £9,000 per year.
When things took off at the airport somewhat the Estate decided to sue their representative, claiming he was negligent not to negotiate a turnover lease, and a fascinating legal case ensued. In the end, the Estate won damages of about £1m representing an assessed loss of income. They had claimed £85+ million in damages. The legal costs also ran to about £5m. Crazy figures really.
So the point of all this is that the airport has to negotiate a new lease soon. It is going to cost them a lot of money, the Estate will be looking for a minimum of a 10% cut of the car parking charges. But they will know this is coming and will be on the case already. Incidentally, the works the airport carried out to create the car park are not refundable on the end of the lease and become Malmesbury's property. They have a couple of options. They can get a new lease and carry on as before but with likely less income. They can try to use other airport land instead, possibly requiring buses (the use of buses was assessed as costing around £1m per year in the legal case). In the airport's favour is the fact that the access road to the car park is airport property. In the event that they fell out they can prohibit access to the fields from airport land, making the land almost useless.
The Malmesbury Estate have been lobbying for some time to lift the green belt status of the car park land and the adjoining land. They wish to develop it. They had previously hoped to install a hotel, business units and petrol station on the site. This has been firmly rejected so far. I think it was their hope that the car parking could provide a crack to enable the planning restrictions to be removed. So far this has not happened.
On the subject of the playing field opposite the school, the school actually put in a planning application for this field to be used as a school playing field. But even this was refused by the council. It is my opinion that getting planning approval for any kind of construction on this land would be very unlikely in the near to medium term given the council planning guidance.
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If the airport spend £1m on shuttle bussing passengers to their cars in distant car-parks within their boundary, instead of spending half that on a shuttle service to the train station then I can’t take them seriously n any of their environmental targets.
BOH will require at least double the car-parking land currently in use in 2025/26. Where will it come from if they don’t get permission for a multi-story?
BOH will require at least double the car-parking land currently in use in 2025/26. Where will it come from if they don’t get permission for a multi-story?
If the airport spend £1m on shuttle bussing passengers to their cars in distant car-parks within their boundary, instead of spending half that on a shuttle service to the train station then I can’t take them seriously n any of their environmental targets.
BOH will require at least double the car-parking land currently in use in 2025/26.
Where will it come from if they don’t get permission for a multi-story?
BOH will require at least double the car-parking land currently in use in 2025/26.
Where will it come from if they don’t get permission for a multi-story?
But,
Have you seen the state of the Railways down here locally ?
SWR are a disgrace, and Network Rail struggle to keep up with simply cutting down trees that seem to constantly fall blocking the lines (In between signal failures, flooding, train faults and oh yes...Strikes, Work to Rule, and staff shortages)
It's a MESS!
The Airport catchment area is not just along the SWR mainline from Weymouth or Southampton.
It's far reaching and those folk have no rail connections.
TUI, Jet2 and Ryanair customers on the whole will get dropped off, or park their car, or come by Taxi to BOH.
The Airport with the fantastic public transport connection is SOU with their own railway station, but they still suffer now from the increasing woes of the Train services.
As MarkeyD says:
An on-Airport Hotel is something for the future, and I agree the state (and capacity) of the Car Parks needs to be addressed PDQ for next summer.
The car parks need a serious makeover, people are not too happy about wading through floods, and dragging your rather nice Samsonite through the gravel and mud to get to the Terminal is not a good look.
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Gosh it's been many years since I posted here but started lurking again recently...
Anywho. Any ideas why the KLM/Eastern Embraer E170 G-CMPI came in today? I wanted to restart the KLM rumour as it has done a little UK tour, but it looks to be at the exec base.
Anywho. Any ideas why the KLM/Eastern Embraer E170 G-CMPI came in today? I wanted to restart the KLM rumour as it has done a little UK tour, but it looks to be at the exec base.
As it appears to have come from Manchester I suggest it’s to do with the football MU play Bournemouth tomorrow.