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Old 29th Mar 2024, 11:39
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I didn’t know that BRS has seen all its charter long-haul offerings disappear. Before BOH sees any long-haul I would’ve thought it would go to BRS first but their runway isn’t that long. I know they’re working hard to get Turkish to Istanbul.

This Summer

What date does TUI base their second aircraft at BOH this summer?
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Cunard are basing the QUEEN ELIZABETH in the Caribbean for winter 2025/26 with 13 cruises offered, sailing round-trip from Barbados.

Surely BOH will be seeing a few extra flights to Barbados for winter 2025/26 on behalf of Cunard as well as for P&O Cruises.

On another note and just a thought btw.

With such a large Turkish population on the south coast I wonder if BOH at some point could possibly attract a Turkish carrier. A carrier such as Pegasus Airlines or SunExpress.

If the likes of Pegasus Airlines opened up a link from SAW to BOH it could offer so many onward connections. The catchment area for BOH along with the fairly large Turkish population on the south coast, could this be a possibility?

I'm obviously aware of the fact that their are existing flights from BOH to Turkey, but an airline offering onward connections such as Pegasus Airlines would be such a benefit to the airport.

Pegasus Airlines currently serves BHX, MAN, and STN. Adding BOH would give the airline greater coverage in England and the unserved south central area.

I know others are are going to say. But Pegasus Airlines don't even serve the likes of BRS, EDI, GLA or NCL so why BOH. Sure I would think that BRS would probably be a better option for Pegasus Airlines but I'm here discussing the possibilities for BOH. An airport close enough to me to be interested in, an airport I've always been fond of.

I look forward to reading what others think.
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Old 29th Mar 2024, 15:33
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Originally Posted by Sotonsean
Cunard are basing the QUEEN ELIZABETH in the Caribbean for winter 2025/26 with 13 cruises offered, sailing round-trip from Barbados.

Surely BOH will be seeing a few extra flights to Barbados for winter 2025/26 on behalf of Cunard as well as for P&O Cruises.
On another note and just a thought btw.
With such a large Turkish population on the south coast I wonder if BOH at some point could possibly attract a Turkish carrier. A carrier such as Pegasus Airlines or SunExpress.

I look forward to reading what others think.

Great post, thanks.

Firstly there are loads of new Turkish entries that have been flying or planning to fly in to BRS Bristol - We will have to wait and see if they all stay the course.
I was surprised at the number of new flights.
Is this all seasonal?
As for BOH with a LCC flying to Turkey?
I'm not quite sure of that market demand. I've not got any info sorry.


As for Cunard's QE Caribbean fly/cruises -
I have just noted that QE's cruises are all Miami based, not based BGI, is that so?

It's well known that we have a shortage of wide body long haul charter aircraft (and airlines) so I wonder who will be flying for Cunard?.
In the past Cunard chartered Britannia Airways, and then Virgin Atlantic for it's San Juan based cruises flying from LGW.
Cunard used British Airways 767's chartered from LHR for their QE Mediterranean Fly-Cruises from ATH BCN FCO IST and VCE.

They (Cunard) will usually look for a legacy/premium charter airline.
So they may well also use BA (LHR) and Virgin (LHR) scheduled flights, but that is a lot of seats to buy in, and also use Norse (LGW) maybe?
As it is a MIA Miami start then Cunard will be also attracting a huge American 'home' crowd.


As for any BOH flights for Cunard's QE cruises, yes I dare say that Hays Travel may well charter planes for a few selected departures but who would they use for flights from BOH to MIA?.

P&O have ditched Maleth Aero (what a PR disaster!) for the 2024/2025 cruise season but they have not announced yet who they are using for the extra LGW and MAN flights to BGI and ANU (along with the existing TUI contract).

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Old 29th Mar 2024, 15:55
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Originally Posted by rog747
Great post, thanks.

Firstly, there are loads of new Turkish entries that have been flying or planning to fly in to BRS Bristol . We will have to wait and see if they all stay the course.
I was surprised at the number of new flights.
Is this all seasonal?
As for BOH with an LCC flying to Turkey?
I'm not quite sure of that market demand. I've not got any info sorry.


As for Cunard's QE Caribbean fly/cruises -
I have just noted that QE's cruises are all Miami based, not based BGI, is that so?

It's well known that we have a shortage of wide body long haul charter aircraft (and airlines) so I wonder who will be flying for Cunard?.
In the past Cunard chartered Britannia Airways, and then Virgin Atlantic for it's San Juan based cruises flying from LGW.
Cunard used British Airways 767's chartered from LHR for their QE Mediterranean Fly-Cruises from ATH BCN FCO and VCE.

They (Cunard) will usually look for a legacy/premium charter airline.
So they may well also use BA (LHR) and Virgin (LHR) scheduled flights, but that is a lot of seats to buy in, and also use Norse (LGW) maybe?
As it is a MIA Miami start then Cunard will be also attracting a huge American 'home' crowd.


As for any BOH flights for Cunard's QE cruises, yes I dare say that Hays Travel may well charter planes for a few selected departures but who would they use for flights to MIA?.

P&O have ditched Maleth Aero (what a PR disaster!) for the 2024/2025 cruise season but they have not announced yet who they are using for the extra LGW and MAN flights to BGI and ANU (along with the existing TUI contract).
ROG I'm absolutely ashamed of myself. The QUEEN ELIZABETH as you have rightly pointed is indeed being based in Miami rather than Barbados for winter 2025/26. It was an absolute school boy error on my behalf. I wear my Cunard White Star badge with pride and I made such a stupid mistake 🙃

But I'm pleased that you enjoyed reading the post, and I appreciate your response back.

Regards to market demand for BOH to Turkey.

There is a fairly large Turkish population within the airports catchment area. Southampton and Eastleigh, for example, the local Turkish diaspora is fairly large and increasing and I'm sure it's the same in Bournemouth.

Plus, any onward connections by the likes of Pegasus Airlines from SAW could open up so many destinations from BOH.

But as I mentioned in my post it was just a thought.
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Old 29th Mar 2024, 16:14
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LOL don't fall too far on to your White Star dinner knife....I didn't even know yet of those new MIAMI based cruises and I get loads of Cunard junk mail each week with them rather flashy brochures!
As for a BOH charter for one or two of those cruises then its a winner as far as Hays Travel are concerned, just got no planes tho'

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Jet 2 are advertising on You Tube that the first 1000 bookings out of BOH will receive complimentary fast tracking through the airport.
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Old 29th Mar 2024, 17:58
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Let’s not get ahead of ourselves with all this information about more routes and airlines coming to Bournemouth ( I know it’s only wishful thinking)

Its been a massive news week for Bournemouth but the work starts now on controlled expansion this summer
TUI have an extra aircraft about to arrive and FR return with the busiest summer for them so far
The terminal and infrastructure needs to be looked at very carefully this summer and plans are in place for this already

However with Jet 2 arriving in S25 even more will need to be done which no doubt will be top priority now before any more aircraft / airlines venture in

Terminal expansion
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I would expect some sort of shake up from TUI for Summer 2025.

They no doubt would have been informed ahead of time of Jet2’s announcement which may be one reason why - although Summer 2025 still has two based aircraft - some destinations are showing one less weekly frequency.

I would expect TUI to announce some different options therefore to fill those gaps and perhaps we will see Naples, Dubrovnik, Reus or something as alternatives to the second weekly Antalya, Dalaman and Rhodes for example.
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A Lot of folk have been asking for years for Naples NAP (Sorrento, Amalfi Coast, Capri and Ischia) and TUI have their inhouse Italy brand Citalia.
Holiday changeover day is MON and FRI.

Another summer Italy destination very popular is Verona VRN for Lake Garda and Dolomites etc -
TUI Holidays offer holidays from LGW and from BRS, and they could seek to share a BOH flight with Ingham's who once used to charter a couple of Flybe flights each week from SOU to VRN.
Holiday changeover day is WED and SAT.

DBV Dubrovnik is another market that would do well from BOH.
Holiday changeover day is THUR and SUN.

Reus REU is mainly TUE plus also FRI and SAT - a popular Spanish Costa...

All of the above are ''short'' flights and could fit in with another rotation if there are gaps on those days.

Holiday changeover days shown are for TUI Holidays, and other mainstream brands, such as Inghams and Citalia.
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Old 30th Mar 2024, 11:33
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TUI have filled in their S25 programme with the 2 aircraft fully committed for the summer season

Kefalonia is now 2x week and one of the Antalya flights is now operated by a 3rd party carrier to make way for this extra service

TUI usually introduce new destinations mid April but it looks full up already

I would suspect that Jet 2 will be the company to introduce new destinations as discussed
TUI really do like the safe route
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Rog - really informative post thank you
MARKEYD - thanks I didn’t realise they had filled in the gaps and added frequency on Kefalonia.
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TUI is making a huge margin at BOH and charge a premium to fly from local airports such as BOH. They may make less profit alongside Jet2 but they will still make a very healthy profit out of BOH in 2025. Jet2 are operating some different days of the week on a lot of the competing services.

Ryanair operate 13 routes with ZERO competition from BOH. Only 7 compete with TUI and Jet2 so they too will continue to make a killing from there.

As MARKEYD says, attention needs to be given to making room for this growth by way of additional car parking spaces and expansion of the terminal and ramp area itself. New retail outlets for bored passengers may now be more viable with a larger throughput.
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Old 30th Mar 2024, 13:08
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Did they ever fill the gap between arrivals and departures? Seem to remember it was two separate buildings.
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Old 30th Mar 2024, 13:15
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There is a huge area between the two buildings, when it was first built the plan was to fill in as needed

Just found an interview with Andrew Bell a few days ago who confirmed on TV that they will start to build a bigger terminal facility with more infrastructure inside
Bigger security facility
Bigger back of house for the luggage

They intend to build out and expand everything over the next 2 years

Credit to Google maps

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Originally Posted by MARKEYD

There is a huge area between the two buildings, when it was first built the plan was to fill in as needed

Just found an interview with Andrew Bell a few days ago who confirmed on TV that they will start to build a bigger terminal facility with more infrastructure inside
Bigger security facility
Bigger back of house for the luggage

They intend to build out and expand everything over the next 2 years

Credit to Google maps
Great to see a small airport bucking the trend and growing! Hardly surprising though, Southampton has been unfortunate in that the previous commuter type airlines are not really in abundance any more so BOH has managed to steal a march. It’s a large wealthy catchment area so will do very well.
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Chuffed to bits with this news too BUT:

For the love of God please get a bus service going to the airport.

Currently, if you’re in central Bournemouth it’s FAR easier to get a train from Bournemouth Train Station to Southampton Airport or a direct bus to Heathrow than it is to get to Bournemouth Airport if you need to and don’t want to spend an arm and a leg on a taxi.
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The bus service is down to the bus company in Bournemouth who might be prepared to operate , not the airports responsibility

I don’t doubt that this will happen soon and the airport will again put its case to a willing operator
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Found this about BOH hourly capacity. Seems outbound it is around 600 passengers p/h and 600 p/h inbound. The airport is already operating above capacity at peak times. Marquees for 2025 unless work has already started on making the terminal bigger or the loads are spread out more evenly.

https://www.bournemouthairport.com/c...Study-v1.1.pdf

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Old 30th Mar 2024, 18:25
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Originally Posted by LTNman
Found this about BOH hourly capacity. Seems outbound it is around 600 passengers p/h and 600 p/h inbound. The airport is already operating above capacity at peak times. Marquees for 2025 unless work has already started on making the terminal bigger or the loads are spread out more evenly.

https://www.bournemouthairport.com/c...Study-v1.1.pdf
I was thinking the same myself. Has LTN got any spare tucked away at the back of a cupboard?
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Blackpool have used marquees. Interesting experience seeing the walls move in the breeze. Yes, Luton as well but that was 50 years ago but is still remembered and gave the airport a shocking reputation that they never really lost. From 16 seconds.

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