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From: Not so many places currently
Tel Aviv suspended - again.
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From: Under the flight path
Another distribution agreement:
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From: Italy
Lauda Europe future
Apologies if this has been covered previously, but it is being reported elsewhere that Ryanair are now seeking to increase Lauda's fleet to 50 aircraft, as opposed to replacing the existing 27 Airbus A320s with 737s. Reasoning for this, according to MOL, would be cost savings through not needing to retrain existing Airbus crew to the Boeing fleet. Options currently being looked at include:
Source:
https://simpleflying.com/ryanair-ceo...mily-aircraft/
- Extending leases on the existing A320 fleet (currently 27 aircraft) upon expiration of their leases in 28';
- Expanding and/or replacing the existing aircraft with other (newer) A320-CEOs;
- Longer term: transitioning to the A320-NEO family after 2030- MOL seems hopeful to get a deal with Airbus, and is reportedly considering both the Airbus A320 and A321-NEO.
Source:
https://simpleflying.com/ryanair-ceo...mily-aircraft/
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From: Eighton Banks
I would love to see Lauda take on neo's, and I can see FR group making an order for A321's for delivery post-2030 and I think that, very similarly to Jet2, we will see subsequent follow up orders take place and an eventual large fleet of Lauda A321's operating for FR on the continent.
I have no doubts that the other FR group airlines will stick with the 737 MAX, especially the -10's, but I do think we will see Lauda become a larger cog in the Ryanair machine, and I woudn't be surprised to see Ryanair's larger bases especially in southern Europe and the Spanish Islands move over to Lauda bases if they do take on A321neo's. The CASM and lifting power that the A21N could offer on trunk routes like STN/DUB/MAN-PMI/TFS/ALC would be irresistible.
I also don't think it's outside the realms of possibility to see A21N's arrive on property in large numbers even before the MAX 10's arrive.
I say A321neo throughout as I can't see them ordering A320's unless the price is significantly reduced. By seat cost, the A21N wins hands down.
I have no doubts that the other FR group airlines will stick with the 737 MAX, especially the -10's, but I do think we will see Lauda become a larger cog in the Ryanair machine, and I woudn't be surprised to see Ryanair's larger bases especially in southern Europe and the Spanish Islands move over to Lauda bases if they do take on A321neo's. The CASM and lifting power that the A21N could offer on trunk routes like STN/DUB/MAN-PMI/TFS/ALC would be irresistible.
I also don't think it's outside the realms of possibility to see A21N's arrive on property in large numbers even before the MAX 10's arrive.
I say A321neo throughout as I can't see them ordering A320's unless the price is significantly reduced. By seat cost, the A21N wins hands down.
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From: UK
Changed a flight last night on the app, no fare difference, only the standard €45 flight change fee...however, my initial seat that I paid for wasn't available, so I opted to purchase another seat (although cheaper at €3), so the total cost came to €48.
Paid with my Revolut card, received the new confirmation email also stating €48, however, my Revolut account was debited €52...there were no fees to pay with this card type (Visa) according to the email confirmation...am I missing something or do Ryanair owe me €4?
It seems even if you change the currency in the app during the payment process (to sterling), you are still charged in Euro's (in this specific case, as the flight originates in France, so therefore the local currency). Or is it because the app detects my location and charges me in the currency of the country I am currently at?
Paid with my Revolut card, received the new confirmation email also stating €48, however, my Revolut account was debited €52...there were no fees to pay with this card type (Visa) according to the email confirmation...am I missing something or do Ryanair owe me €4?
It seems even if you change the currency in the app during the payment process (to sterling), you are still charged in Euro's (in this specific case, as the flight originates in France, so therefore the local currency). Or is it because the app detects my location and charges me in the currency of the country I am currently at?
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From: BMA
Changed a flight last night on the app, no fare difference, only the standard €45 flight change fee...however, my initial seat that I paid for wasn't available, so I opted to purchase another seat (although cheaper at €3), so the total cost came to €48.
Paid with my Revolut card, received the new confirmation email also stating €48, however, my Revolut account was debited €52...there were no fees to pay with this card type (Visa) according to the email confirmation...am I missing something or do Ryanair owe me €4?
It seems even if you change the currency in the app during the payment process (to sterling), you are still charged in Euro's (in this specific case, as the flight originates in France, so therefore the local currency). Or is it because the app detects my location and charges me in the currency of the country I am currently at?
Paid with my Revolut card, received the new confirmation email also stating €48, however, my Revolut account was debited €52...there were no fees to pay with this card type (Visa) according to the email confirmation...am I missing something or do Ryanair owe me €4?
It seems even if you change the currency in the app during the payment process (to sterling), you are still charged in Euro's (in this specific case, as the flight originates in France, so therefore the local currency). Or is it because the app detects my location and charges me in the currency of the country I am currently at?
As for the price discrepancy can’t you question it with Revolut?
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From: In the sticks
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From: Newcastle
Just flown Ryanair for the first time in 10+ years. No complaints, great price and on a route no one else serves - NCL-ZAD.
however, i do have an observation…
have flown TUI and Jet2 numerous times over this time who have both emulated Ryanair but they appear to do the onboard sales much better. I’ve never experienced either of them run out of anything, in fact it always appears that they have enough to feed everyone.
NCL - ZAD was flown by Lauda Europe and the trolley only appeared after about an hour in the air. They had no sandwiches and very limited drinks. A crew member said they didn’t fill up at NCL as they were based elsewhere and had sold a lot on the inbound flight.
Flying ZAD -NCL thought the bar would be fully stocked but agian they ran low really quickly and didn’t have the duty free item that I asked for.
a long post just to say if profits come from all of the
ancillary sales they don’t seem that bothered when they run out. TBH on a NCL flight the bar trolley can usally make a few appearances and sell
something but in both cases here was just one.
is this the norm with Ryanair/Lauda??
however, i do have an observation…
have flown TUI and Jet2 numerous times over this time who have both emulated Ryanair but they appear to do the onboard sales much better. I’ve never experienced either of them run out of anything, in fact it always appears that they have enough to feed everyone.
NCL - ZAD was flown by Lauda Europe and the trolley only appeared after about an hour in the air. They had no sandwiches and very limited drinks. A crew member said they didn’t fill up at NCL as they were based elsewhere and had sold a lot on the inbound flight.
Flying ZAD -NCL thought the bar would be fully stocked but agian they ran low really quickly and didn’t have the duty free item that I asked for.
a long post just to say if profits come from all of the
ancillary sales they don’t seem that bothered when they run out. TBH on a NCL flight the bar trolley can usally make a few appearances and sell
something but in both cases here was just one.
is this the norm with Ryanair/Lauda??
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From: Newcastle
cool, but if they don’t have anything that it doesn’t really help!!
also asked for ice and they didn’t even have that!
As I said just an observation. When they measure sales of extra’s so closely for profit purposes I assumed that there would be enough extras to sell!!
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From: England
This is normal they only use one bar set for all flights that day, they did a trial from STN where crew could order more stock to the aircraft but it didn’t work out and for the ice it’s the same so if the aircraft as a flight it normally loaded 30 minutes before the crew get on the aircraft in the morning and is meant to last all day but like you said it never does
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From: Newcastle
Thanks tom7130. It’s worse than I thought! I’d assumed they fill up before the ZAD-NCL leg but that was already 5th sector of the day so no wonder stocks were low if they only load up before the first flight of the day! Had a feedback request from Ryanair today. Strangely they specifically asked about warm drinks/lack of ice!!!
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From: England
Thanks tom7130. It’s worse than I thought! I’d assumed they fill up before the ZAD-NCL leg but that was already 5th sector of the day so no wonder stocks were low if they only load up before the first flight of the day! Had a feedback request from Ryanair today. Strangely they specifically asked about warm drinks/lack of ice!!!
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From: Manchester
Connecting Flights Trial
The publicised trial of booking protected connecting flights through certain airports (mainly Italian airports and Porto) has now quietly been dropped.
With the ability of Kiwi for one to offer this sort of booking the Mix & Match proposal was weak / useless at best and with Kiwi now as an approved OTA partner perhaps this is the reason / preferred solution.
Adding Dohop into the mix as well would seem to be the most obvious route to get connecting bums on seats as Ryanair get to remain focussed on P2P, pick up no additional overhead or risk and can offer a multitude of connecting opportunities which having a foot in both pools of connection opportunities would seem especially valuable.
The sheer number of connection opportunities with a network the size of Ryanair's must mean that even a low percentage point uplift in overall sales by doing nothing differently for the airline themselves would generate significant extra revenue and allow the "missing" aircraft from the fleet and the reduction in capacity to be mitigated by moving more people to where they need to be albeit through a connection point ?
The publicised trial of booking protected connecting flights through certain airports (mainly Italian airports and Porto) has now quietly been dropped.
With the ability of Kiwi for one to offer this sort of booking the Mix & Match proposal was weak / useless at best and with Kiwi now as an approved OTA partner perhaps this is the reason / preferred solution.
Adding Dohop into the mix as well would seem to be the most obvious route to get connecting bums on seats as Ryanair get to remain focussed on P2P, pick up no additional overhead or risk and can offer a multitude of connecting opportunities which having a foot in both pools of connection opportunities would seem especially valuable.
The sheer number of connection opportunities with a network the size of Ryanair's must mean that even a low percentage point uplift in overall sales by doing nothing differently for the airline themselves would generate significant extra revenue and allow the "missing" aircraft from the fleet and the reduction in capacity to be mitigated by moving more people to where they need to be albeit through a connection point ?
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From: Aylesbury
They're operated on a wet-lease basis on the RUK AOC - the exact figure escapes me but the CAA allows this as long as it is under a certain percentage of the total RUK fleet. Something like 25%.
Otherwise I had read that they were supposed to be using DAC/mainline 737-8200s this summer but they don't seem to have materialised.
Otherwise I had read that they were supposed to be using DAC/mainline 737-8200s this summer but they don't seem to have materialised.
