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Old 24th Jan 2022, 22:43
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What do you mean 'are'?
There is no LGW-MAN flight at the moment and hasn't been for some time.
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Old 25th Jan 2022, 10:43
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What do you mean 'are'?
There is no LGW-MAN flight at the moment and hasn't been for some time.
British Airways are scheduled to reinstate a daily Manchester - Gatwick- Manchester rotation in W using a Heathrow shuttle A32X to connect to this flight and potentially others .

The Gatwick - Pakistan service itself hasn't started yet and I suppose BA may be expecting upwards of three figures of connecting traffic from the North West.
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Surely the whole LGW-Pakistan rationale is predicated on PIA not re-starting ops out of LHR?
There's a competitive disadvantage in offering LGW-Pakistan once PIA are back operating out of LHR. BA traditionally lose out when their competitor stays at LHR and they offer only LGW service. This is less of a problem when they're only up against Virgin, competing against a flag carrier is a different proposition. Having said that, BA's Pakistan operation was at LGW on the B747 for years back in the day.
Offering an almost dedicated shuttle service to feed one long haul flight is interesting to say the least IMHO.

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Old 25th Jan 2022, 12:05
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Surely the whole LGW-Pakistan rationale is predicated on PIA not re-starting ops out of LHR?
There's a competitive disadvantage in offering LGW-Pakistan once PIA are back operating out of LHR. BA traditionally lose out when their competitor stays at LHR and they offer only LGW service. This is less of a problem when they're only up against Virgin, competing against a flag carrier is a different proposition. Having said that, Pakistan was at LGW on the B747 for years back in the day.
Offering an almost dedicated shuttle service to feed one long haul flight is interesting to say the least IMHO.
Pakistan have failed to satisfy EASA again so the ban continues
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Old 25th Jan 2022, 12:36
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Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot View Post
Surely the whole LGW-Pakistan rationale is predicated on PIA not re-starting ops out of LHR?
There's a competitive disadvantage in offering LGW-Pakistan once PIA are back operating out of LHR. BA traditionally lose out when their competitor stays at LHR and they offer only LGW service. This is less of a problem when they're only up against Virgin, competing against a flag carrier is a different proposition. Having said that, BA's Pakistan operation was at LGW on the B747 for years back in the day.
Offering an almost dedicated shuttle service to feed one long haul flight is interesting to say the least IMHO.
U.K.-Pakistan is high density but extremely low yield. Itíll go from where the highest density aircraft is based or itíll be canned. The MAN flights will feed into it, but will also feed into Caribbean and Florida flights, so thereís some added benefit there. But BA arenít going to be fussed about competition here, Pakistan has been a stable route for bums on seats during two years of changeable demand just about everywhere else, but it wonít be making much money. The route will probably go once they have a better use for the aircraft, just like Lahore has.
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Old 25th Jan 2022, 15:12
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Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot View Post
Surely the whole LGW-Pakistan rationale is predicated on PIA not re-starting ops out of LHR?
There's a competitive disadvantage in offering LGW-Pakistan once PIA are back operating out of LHR. BA traditionally lose out when their competitor stays at LHR and they offer only LGW service. This is less of a problem when they're only up against Virgin, competing against a flag carrier is a different proposition. Having said that, BA's Pakistan operation was at LGW on the B747 for years back in the day.
Offering an almost dedicated shuttle service to feed one long haul flight is interesting to say the least IMHO.
Sort agree however the idea of actually operating the route (where the traffic is !) might frustrate a few in HQ !

Manchester and West Yorkshire IS where the traffic comes from.

As for yield Plenty willing to pay and potentially massive baggage income !


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SkyAlps are continuing to cancel flights between Gatwick to Bolzano 14 days in advance. Their start date is now Sunday 13 Feb, ie start of half term
I hope this flight remains bookable on Monday in at least one direction... if not I would be concerned as to whether SkyAlps (or Luxwing who operate the flights) will be coming to Gatwick at all
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Old 27th Jan 2022, 18:01
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https://travelweekly.co.uk/news/air/...s-from-gatwick
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easyJet will have 79 airframes based for Summer 2022.
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Old 1st Feb 2022, 18:52
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Freebird will increase their route to Antalya to 4 weekly this summer and also launch a new route to Bodrum 2 weekly.
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Freebird. The carrier had planned a twice-weekly Antalya service from Gatwick commencing in May 2022, but will now offer this four times a week following promising early sales.

Flights will operate on Monday, Tuesday, Saturday and Sunday.

Freebird will also launch a twice-weekly service from Gatwick to Bodrum, also commencing in May, operating on Tuesday and Friday.

This will complement the existing Antalya services from Manchester, already operating twice weekly.

Carl Denton, UK sales representative, said: “Following our launch during the restrictions of the pandemic, we are now very encouraged to see consumer confidence return and bookings pick up.

“In reaction to this we are pleased to have secured the necessary cleared slots at Gatwick to ensure we can meet this demand and grow back the capacity to Turkey.”

He added Freebird was happy to work with agents. “We are keen to engage and encourage travel agents to offer Freebird flights to their clients and also discuss technical solutions to ensure they have the best access to the flights Freebird offers from the UK.”

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flashback-does anyone know if there is an organisation that has details of historic Gatwick movements? A blast from the past but trying to find out about a couple of Laker flights from 1981. Cheers
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The Laker Skytrain summer 1981 timetable is here :

gk8103-2.jpg (2402◊1338) (timetableimages.com)

Doesn't include the ABC charters (Toronto etc) or the Mediterranean holiday charter flights.

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The Laker Skytrain summer 1981 timetable is here :

gk8103-2.jpg (2402◊1338) (timetableimages.com)

Doesn't include the ABC charters (Toronto etc) or the Mediterranean holiday charter flights.
From memory, the trans-atlantic schedule for summer 1981 was 'flexible'
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The Laker Skytrain summer 1981 timetable is here :

gk8103-2.jpg (2402◊1338) (timetableimages.com)

Doesn't include the ABC charters (Toronto etc) or the Mediterranean holiday charter flights.

Thanks! Really love the old timetables. It was actually one of the med charters that I was interested in. A DC10 to Gerona. Just found an old diary so have dates and times if anyone by some fluke has registrations!
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flashback-does anyone know if there is an organisation that has details of historic Gatwick movements? A blast from the past but trying to find out about a couple of Laker flights from 1981. Cheers
Try archive-main-munu (lhr-lgw.co.uk) : has selected movements on selected dates in 1981.
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Originally Posted by davidjohnson6 View Post
SkyAlps are continuing to cancel flights between Gatwick to Bolzano 14 days in advance. Their start date is now Sunday 13 Feb, ie start of half term
I hope this flight remains bookable on Monday in at least one direction... if not I would be concerned as to whether SkyAlps (or Luxwing who operate the flights) will be coming to Gatwick at all
Route has now been cancelled... before any flights took place
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Are there any rumours about the reopening of the south terminal / yotel? Looking for a cheap on site hotel this summer and a bit surprised it's all still closed up.
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I believe the South Terminal is being readied for Summer season 2022 opening. That’s is from the end of March. Lots of companies advertising for South Terminal staff. Hopefully official announcement soon.
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And presuming things go to plan there will be some orange tails parked up at the south terminal this summer too.
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