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Old 3rd Aug 2022, 14:09
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BHX - NCE twice weekly with Jet2 May -Oct 2023 just announced. Was going to start in 2021 but didn't for obvious reasons ...a excellent addition for BHX.

BHX getting some much needed expansion from FR and EZY as well this winter but still lacking some key routes - Milan MXP, Berlin, Vienna, Lyon spring to mind. Doesn't look like Austrian are returning to BHX - VIE after starting just before COVID lockdown.
No sign of either Austrian or Qatar returning to BHX
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Old 12th Aug 2022, 07:10
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Easy to expand to 10 routes now. (Courtesy of Simply Flying)

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Old 28th Aug 2022, 16:20
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Departure Lounge Extension

What's the latest on the extension to the departure lounge?

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Old 4th Sep 2022, 09:58
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We flew back into Birmingham from Skiathos on Friday, the TUI flight was 2.5 hours delayed leaving Birmingham in the morning. Most TUI flights were delayed that morning, some 7 hours plus. On boarding in Skiathos the TUI captain told us their supplier had run out of aviation fuel in Birmingham that morning and the other supplier had prioritised their competitor (I presume Jet2?). He had actually planned to hop to East Midlands to take on fuel but then fuel turned up. Another holiday maker in Skiathos said they'd seen something on social media saying fuel protesters were to blame. Is there any truth in this? Is there a media blackout on this info to block publicity? Nothing on the news, google search nor Twitter. Anyone know anything? Is running out of aviation fuel something that's known to happen?
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Old 4th Sep 2022, 10:17
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We flew back into Birmingham from Skiathos on Friday, the TUI flight was 2.5 hours delayed leaving Birmingham in the morning. Most TUI flights were delayed that morning, some 7 hours plus. On boarding in Skiathos the TUI captain told us their supplier had run out of aviation fuel in Birmingham that morning and the other supplier had prioritised their competitor (I presume Jet2?). He had actually planned to hop to East Midlands to take on fuel but then fuel turned up. Another holiday maker in Skiathos said they'd seen something on social media saying fuel protesters were to blame. Is there any truth in this? Is there a media blackout on this info to block publicity? Nothing on the news, google search nor Twitter. Anyone know anything? Is running out of aviation fuel something that's known to happen?
It certainly happened at BHX earlier in the Summer, and eco-protesters were the cause. Ridiculous really when, if I recall correctly their is a pipeline to Kingsbury Oil Terminal which has never, or rarely been used, hence why a few extremists can effectively stop the supply of fuel to the ramp.

On the subject of media coverage the Coventry Telegraph seemed pretty quick to report an EasyJet aircraft "skidding to a stop" en-route to BFS after bird debris was reported by a previous departure. There was me thinking modern aircraft had anti-skid brake systems!!! No point in making a link to the story since PPRuNe still seems to have issues, but suffice to say it's little more than you might expect from a "Reach" rag!
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Old 4th Sep 2022, 10:27
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It certainly happened at BHX earlier in the Summer, and eco-protesters were the cause. Ridiculous really when, if I recall correctly their is a pipeline to Kingsbury Oil Terminal which has never, or rarely been used, hence why a few extremists can effectively stop the supply of fuel to the ramp.

On the subject of media coverage the Coventry Telegraph seemed pretty quick to report an EasyJet aircraft "skidding to a stop" en-route to BFS after bird debris was reported by a previous departure. There was me thinking modern aircraft had anti-skid brake systems!!! No point in making a link to the story since PPRuNe still seems to have issues, but suffice to say it's little more than you might expect from a "Reach" rag!
Yes there was loads of coverage of the easyjet BFS flight thrown up by a simple search on Birmingham Airport that day, but absolutely nothing on the delays/fuel shortage. What I don't understand is how a media blackout would keep the story off twitter
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Old 4th Sep 2022, 10:37
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Originally Posted by danielsirrom View Post
Yes there was loads of coverage of the easyjet BFS flight thrown up by a simple search on Birmingham Airport that day, but absolutely nothing on the delays/fuel shortage. What I don't understand is how a media blackout would keep the story off twitter
If it had made [email protected] then you can be sure it would have made a "Reach" publication near you, and got wide coverage through the dreadful "Google Discover" tool.
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Old 4th Sep 2022, 11:04
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The fuel pipeline to Kingsbury isn't in use any more, fuel supplies have been disrupted more than once and the fuel companies have asked crews to tanker inbound a few times this year, Covid and fuel protestors being the main reasons.
Emirates suck up a lot of the available supply
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Old 4th Sep 2022, 16:18
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An airport spokesman told BirminghamLive: "In the latter half of last week, the local depot, which supplies fuel to our on-site fuel vendors, had problems with its fuel-mixing process.

"This slowed down the flow of usable aviation fuel into BHX, prompting us to ask aircraft flying in, if possible, to hold enough fuel to make their return trips without needing to refuel here.

"We also sourced fuel from other depots across the country to ensure aircraft who did need to refuel were able to. This supply issue is now resolved.”
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/new...three-24926787
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​​​​​​Thanks, interestingly dated this afternoon
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Old 4th Sep 2022, 18:50
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​​​​​​Thanks, interestingly dated this afternoon
Never underestimate the power of PPRuNe...
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Old 4th Sep 2022, 21:49
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Friday & September

Originally Posted by danielsirrom View Post
We flew back into Birmingham from Skiathos on Friday, the TUI flight was 2.5 hours delayed leaving Birmingham in the morning. Most TUI flights were delayed that morning, some 7 hours plus. On boarding in Skiathos the TUI captain told us their supplier had run out of aviation fuel in Birmingham that morning and the other supplier had prioritised their competitor (I presume Jet2?). He had actually planned to hop to East Midlands to take on fuel but then fuel turned up. Another holiday maker in Skiathos said they'd seen something on social media saying fuel protesters were to blame. Is there any truth in this? Is there a media blackout on this info to block publicity? Nothing on the news, google search nor Twitter. Anyone know anything? Is running out of aviation fuel something that's known to happen?
Friday I would imagine was one of those days the airport/airlines at BHX would want to forget quickly. TUI schedule decimated, 788 didn't fly requiring a Hi Fly A330 Saturday to operate the Friday Tenerife, two 737 flights went out Friday morning and didn't operate inbound until Saturday. Wamos A330 today to operate a Saturday 737 flight knock-on effect from Friday. Added to all that on Friday, easyjet Belfast aborted take-off resulting in a six hour delay, easyJet Edinburgh-Geneva diverted in with a medical emergency briefly delaying movements, all Lufthansa Frankfurt services cancelled due strike action and other airlines handled by Swissport were suffering delays of two hours plus as well.

September

SAS are back again tomorrow on Copenhagen

easyjet

Nantes might have ended Friday as planned but Amsterdam is back to what it was starting at double daily although not too long before Wednesday and Sunday end up at once daily

Amsterdam 07:20-07:50 & 15:25-15:55 - slight time differences on some days

Glasgow - Three daily Monday, Tuesday Thursday (not new) & Friday (no doubt will cheer up Flybe no end)

Palma - stays 4 per week Monday, Tuesday, Thursday (from Friday) & Sunday

Ryanair

Malaga goes from 11 - 9 per week with Monday & Tuesday changing to one flight

Dublin - Tuesday staying at 3 daily but Saturday back to 4 daily & Sunday back to 6. Corfu goes from 3 to 1 but not until 1st October

Jet2

From 14 operational to 13 most days with several frequencies reduced as planned but also Prague and Budapest restored on Friday at twice weekly and Rome back to 4 per week

Amsterdam has of course gone and Jersey now ends in September with Krakow still not restarting until February but Reykjavik returns at the end of the month. I had a quick look at this Friday and I could not see a replacement for the Amsterdam or Krakow service which were due to restart

TUI

One of the two Monday Corfu flights ends to tomorrow, Girona on Tuesday, Friday night Palma has ended already with Salzburg Saturday then a sprinkling of flights ending throughout the month but overall still excellent......well except time-keeping

Wizz

Wroclaw drops back to 2 per week as planned but all the rest continue

SAS

Copenhagen is back tomorrow 6 per week CRJ9 operated by Cityjet 10:00 - 10:40 Monday - Friday and Sunday 11:20-12:00 - over 600 one way tomorrow

Swiss

Now 5 per week with Tuesday added. Monday and Tuesday morning with Thursday, Friday and Sunday evening (E290 Monday & Thursday + E295 the west)

Brussels Airlines

The night-stop is already back making 2 daily in the week but on Tuesday this week the late afternoon is non-ops

Lufthansa

Frankfurt in general is 3 daily but only 2 Frankfurt flights on Friday and Munich is 2 on Thursday instead of 3

Eurowings

No change as far as I can see but Dusseldorf this week is A319 Monday am & evening YL-CSF A223, Tuesday both A223's, Wednesday 319/320, Thursday both A223's, Friday A223 in the morning and A320 in the evening with A320 on Sunday

Turkish

Antalya operates days 1, 3, 5, 7, 9, 12, 17, 18, 25 this month and Istanbul remains double daily until 3 October when it is daily for 2 weeks then 10-11 per week

Sun Express no change at present but still seems to increase to 6 per week at the end of the month

Air France

3 daily with the first 2 outbounds mainline and 3rd HOP. A321 tomorrow on AF1164/5 the rest are A319's/A320 mix at this time

KLM

Mainly back to 5 daily in the week although KL1433/4 non-ops Tuesday. KL1421/2 E295's Monday - Thursday, 73G Friday and KL1425/6. KL1433/4 Friday is an E190 not 175. Saturday & Sunday are 4 daily and 1421 on Saturday is a 738

Flybe

Brest ends Saturday

Aer Lingus

EI262/3 reverts to mainline A320

Corendon

Oh dear

Dalaman has ended already and Antalya will be Sunday only (11:45 out) from next Monday - still showing this Tuesday and Thursday (13:15-14:15) as final flights

Blue Air

Another delay now back to 1 November - not looking good as this is the third delay

No major change to Emirates, Air India, Vueling, Loganair, Blue Island and Aurigny

Possibility of a couple of announcements in the next few weeks apparently but details sketchy - not Qatar and Austrian as far as I know.

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Old 4th Sep 2022, 23:02
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NOTAM was published for all pilots on Friday about the fuel situation:-

C5092/22
Sep 2, 2022 14:42 LT New EGBB

FUEL LIMITED DUE TO SUPPLY CHAIN. AIRLINES ADVISED TO CONTACT
THEIR FUEL SUPPLIERS FOR UPDATES. OPERATORS MUST CARRY ROUND TRIP
FUEL AND / OR TANKER FUEL ON INBOUND SECTORS WHERE POSSIBLE TO
MINIMISE UPLIFT AT AD. 02 SEP 14:41 2022 UNTIL 03 SEP 16:00 2022. CREATED: 02
SEP 14:42 2022
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Old 9th Sep 2022, 14:09
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Air India to increase BHX-India from 03.10.22

Delhi - Fri & Sun
Amritsar - Mon & Sat

With further increases to follow
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Old 9th Sep 2022, 14:53
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Originally Posted by BHX5DME View Post
Air India to increase BHX-India from 03.10.22

Delhi - Fri & Sun
Amritsar - Mon & Sat

With further increases to follow
Coincidence that's about four weeks before Hans Airways planned start? Surely not!
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Old 10th Sep 2022, 07:01
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I'm sure it's just a complete coincidence.....

Having said that, with no QR or T5 anymore, there's probably enough demand to go round and room for both on BHX - ATQ. I hope they both thrive.
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Are their bilateral issues which prevent service from the UAE carriers? Seems a perfect route for FlyDubai?
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Old 11th Sep 2022, 08:00
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Are their bilateral issues which prevent service from the UAE carriers? Seems a perfect route for FlyDubai?
No, the UAE and UK have a liberal near openskies bilateral arrangement and 6th and 7th freedoms that allow a host of fare combinations beyond DUBAI to be sold.

However the function of the FlyDubai brand is primarily about regional high frequency “low rent” operations whilst a very few mid range flights are also operated to the south eastern corner of Europe these are targeted at tradesmen moving into and out of the gulf on the cheap.

For the most part they are complementary to their sister carrier rather than a competitor.

There are just a few regional routes where both can be found, however each has a differing profile;
Emirates will operate maybe two flights directly targeting global onward connections via their banked hub strategy, whilst FlyDubai will maintain higher frequencies and lower fare bundles for more local traffic flows.

Both carriers have a range of cross ticket options in place for some destinations where one or others profiles are more appropriate.

Other than an occasional 737max delivery flight don’t expect the FlyDubai brand to deployed into the UK anytime soon if ever .

If you are talking about Dubai - Amritsar corridor in particular there are Seat limitations ( as opposed to frequency) within the UAE- India bilateral arrangements and Emirates / FlyDubai chooses to use them elsewhere .

There are a few “low rent” Indian flexible fares carriers plying the route for migrant/ labour workers.
SpiceJet and Air India express ( their LCC division)

Whilst traffic and demand exists particularly from the UK and Canada, as others stated yield are generally terrible.






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Old 11th Sep 2022, 09:01
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Wizz increase BHX-OTP to 6 pw in October to add extra capacity with Blue Air's issues
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I'm sure it's just a complete coincidence.....

Having said that, with no QR or T5 anymore, there's probably enough demand to go round and room for both on BHX - ATQ. I hope they both thrive.
There probably is, but I just hark back to the BHX/YYZ route which saw Air Canada muscle in for one season, in a blatant and successful attempt to drive Wardair off. The result was no direct scheduled service between the two points as with Wardair disposed of Air Canada abandoned the route. There is the distinct potential for similar to happen when AI increase capacity at the same time as Hans Airways starts service, resulting in too many seats chasing too few punters in what is likely to be a difficult economic period for the UK and neither carrier succeeding on the route.
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