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Old 5th Jan 2021, 14:41
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Eastern Teesside news.
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Old 5th Jan 2021, 14:47
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Termination is not suspension, someone is telling porky pies!
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Old 5th Jan 2021, 14:57
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Not necessarily. The airport spokesman said that flights would restarting, no mention of who would be flying them.
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Old 5th Jan 2021, 15:11
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Wait a bit Ben's new friends at Loganair will surely fill the gap. Must be a hard route to compete on against Easyjet at Newcastle.
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Old 5th Jan 2021, 15:20
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Loganair have already announced BHD from 01 Feb.
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Old 5th Jan 2021, 15:23
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Oh to be a fly on the wall.
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Old 5th Jan 2021, 19:15
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Meanwhile..the money fund (egg timer )is (dripping)..ticking...who exactly is paying for all of this?

Oh yes I remember..the good folk of Teesside....oh how that money could have been better used..rather than paying Eastern to fly one passenger to Belfast...!
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Old 5th Jan 2021, 19:33
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People complain when the airport is suffering and now complain when it is doing well, no pleasing some people! Goes back to a point I've made for years now...that nothing is good enough, "if you give a mouse a cookie..."
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Old 5th Jan 2021, 19:51
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Just a reminder that the airport is being funded out of the TVCA Investment Fund, which comes from central govt, so national taxes rather than local council tax.

Don't think anybody is complaining that the airport is doing well, just querying the perceived value for money (cos there is no transparency).
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Old 5th Jan 2021, 19:56
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CO...I appreciate your sentiments as you know..however you state “when the airport is doing well”?

Less flights,less passengers,less freight and let’s face it..dodgy airlines! ..than ever.

A money tree and ego which as I have often said,could do so much more for this deprived area. Teesside needs jobs,social welfare and general transport infrastructure,so much more than this.
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Old 5th Jan 2021, 20:34
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Highwide, it sounds to me like you're deliberately overlooking suspended services, or at least if you're not you're very behind the times!
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Old 6th Jan 2021, 08:14
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This would seem to say a lot about the airports current relationship with Eastern. If it was just a case of mistake on the Eastern website, you'd just have a word and get them to change it - not have a spokesman put out a contradictory statement...
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Old 6th Jan 2021, 08:27
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Airport doing well!I don't think paying airlines to flying routes for a small amount of pax's is 'well'! As I have said earlier last year a neighbour travelled to SOU with EZE, she was only pax in airport and then only pax on flight!
This is not a time when traditional route building works! Surely the funds should be kept for when things improve? If the money runs out before the routes establish it will all be waisted!! Keep the airport turning over and keep funds for next summer or even winter season!
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Old 6th Jan 2021, 09:32
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Are you saying that some of the funds shouldn't be used to improve amenities at MME. This is being done at the moment ready for an upturn in flights and passengers, or are you saying this won't happen either?
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Old 6th Jan 2021, 10:07
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I think the question is more around the scale of the investment in the improvements in relation to the level of flights, and how that helps the airport move back into profit (and the wider question of whether its the best way of spending taxpayers money on Teesside)
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Old 6th Jan 2021, 13:56
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I would say it is essential to spend money on improvements to the airport facilities during a downturn. When the good times eventually return there will be a better and smarter airport to welcome future airlines, visitors and residents.
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Old 6th Jan 2021, 17:45
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I have no problems in updating facilities, what I was getting at was believing that the airport was 'doing well' by the amount of subsidised flights! Especially in current times!
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Old 7th Jan 2021, 09:51
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I suppose you could say a lot of business's being kept alive with government subsidies are doing well, I believe there are quite a few airlines out who think they are doing well to stay in business with help from the government. Hopefully all airports will come out of this situation well enough to trade normally.
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Old 8th Jan 2021, 19:59
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November CAA stats:

Terminal passengers: 1,008 - down 91% v prior year reflecting huge scale back of operations after the first week of the month.
  • Aberdeen: 593
  • Belfast City: 257
  • London Heathrow: 51
  • Newquay: 8
  • Southampton: 7
Plus charters
  • Norwich: 70
  • Alesund: 24
(One point is that ABZ report 183 pax on the MME route)

I reckon this makes the loads on the flights as follows:
  • Aberdeen: 11.8 pax per flight in November (10.4 in Oct, 11.8 in Sep, 8.8 in Aug & 6.3 in Jul)
  • Belfast City: 13.5 in Nov (5.0 in Oct, 9.0 in Sep, 9.7 in Aug & 10.4 in Jul)
  • London Heathrow: 5.7 in Nov (6.3 in Oct, 12.5 in Sep - LCY was 4.1 in August & 5.8 in Jul)
  • Newquay: 4.0 in Nov (8.7 in Oct, 18.8 on Sep, 28.7 in Aug & 17.1 in Jul)
  • Southampton: 1.0 in Nov (4.2 in Oct, 4.2 in Sep)
Not much to say really. Loads on Belfast look OK, Aberdeen stable, Heathrow still poor. I think there were 7 MME<>SOU flights in November so that is an average of 1 person per flight...
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Old 9th Jan 2021, 11:40
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Report into spending at the airport.

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