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Meanwhile..the money fund (egg timer )is (dripping)..ticking...who exactly is paying for all of this?
Oh yes I remember..the good folk of Teesside....oh how that money could have been better used..rather than paying Eastern to fly one passenger to Belfast...!
Oh yes I remember..the good folk of Teesside....oh how that money could have been better used..rather than paying Eastern to fly one passenger to Belfast...!
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People complain when the airport is suffering and now complain when it is doing well, no pleasing some people! Goes back to a point I've made for years now...that nothing is good enough, "if you give a mouse a cookie..."
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Just a reminder that the airport is being funded out of the TVCA Investment Fund, which comes from central govt, so national taxes rather than local council tax.
Don't think anybody is complaining that the airport is doing well, just querying the perceived value for money (cos there is no transparency).
Just a reminder that the airport is being funded out of the TVCA Investment Fund, which comes from central govt, so national taxes rather than local council tax.
Don't think anybody is complaining that the airport is doing well, just querying the perceived value for money (cos there is no transparency).
CO...I appreciate your sentiments as you know..however you state “when the airport is doing well”?
Less flights,less passengers,less freight and let’s face it..dodgy airlines! ..than ever.
A money tree and ego which as I have often said,could do so much more for this deprived area. Teesside needs jobs,social welfare and general transport infrastructure,so much more than this.
Less flights,less passengers,less freight and let’s face it..dodgy airlines! ..than ever.
A money tree and ego which as I have often said,could do so much more for this deprived area. Teesside needs jobs,social welfare and general transport infrastructure,so much more than this.
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This would seem to say a lot about the airports current relationship with Eastern. If it was just a case of mistake on the Eastern website, you'd just have a word and get them to change it - not have a spokesman put out a contradictory statement...
This would seem to say a lot about the airports current relationship with Eastern. If it was just a case of mistake on the Eastern website, you'd just have a word and get them to change it - not have a spokesman put out a contradictory statement...
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Airport doing well!I don't think paying airlines to flying routes for a small amount of pax's is 'well'! As I have said earlier last year a neighbour travelled to SOU with EZE, she was only pax in airport and then only pax on flight!
This is not a time when traditional route building works! Surely the funds should be kept for when things improve? If the money runs out before the routes establish it will all be waisted!! Keep the airport turning over and keep funds for next summer or even winter season!
This is not a time when traditional route building works! Surely the funds should be kept for when things improve? If the money runs out before the routes establish it will all be waisted!! Keep the airport turning over and keep funds for next summer or even winter season!
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Are you saying that some of the funds shouldn't be used to improve amenities at MME. This is being done at the moment ready for an upturn in flights and passengers, or are you saying this won't happen either?
Are you saying that some of the funds shouldn't be used to improve amenities at MME. This is being done at the moment ready for an upturn in flights and passengers, or are you saying this won't happen either?
I think the question is more around the scale of the investment in the improvements in relation to the level of flights, and how that helps the airport move back into profit (and the wider question of whether its the best way of spending taxpayers money on Teesside)
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I would say it is essential to spend money on improvements to the airport facilities during a downturn. When the good times eventually return there will be a better and smarter airport to welcome future airlines, visitors and residents.
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I have no problems in updating facilities, what I was getting at was believing that the airport was 'doing well' by the amount of subsidised flights! Especially in current times!
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I suppose you could say a lot of business's being kept alive with government subsidies are doing well, I believe there are quite a few airlines out who think they are doing well to stay in business with help from the government. Hopefully all airports will come out of this situation well enough to trade normally.
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November CAA stats:
Terminal passengers: 1,008 - down 91% v prior year reflecting huge scale back of operations after the first week of the month.
I reckon this makes the loads on the flights as follows:
Terminal passengers: 1,008 - down 91% v prior year reflecting huge scale back of operations after the first week of the month.
- Aberdeen: 593
- Belfast City: 257
- London Heathrow: 51
- Newquay: 8
- Southampton: 7
- Norwich: 70
- Alesund: 24
I reckon this makes the loads on the flights as follows:
- Aberdeen: 11.8 pax per flight in November (10.4 in Oct, 11.8 in Sep, 8.8 in Aug & 6.3 in Jul)
- Belfast City: 13.5 in Nov (5.0 in Oct, 9.0 in Sep, 9.7 in Aug & 10.4 in Jul)
- London Heathrow: 5.7 in Nov (6.3 in Oct, 12.5 in Sep - LCY was 4.1 in August & 5.8 in Jul)
- Newquay: 4.0 in Nov (8.7 in Oct, 18.8 on Sep, 28.7 in Aug & 17.1 in Jul)
- Southampton: 1.0 in Nov (4.2 in Oct, 4.2 in Sep)
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Given the circumstances arguably the NQY route did quite well too and is a keeper overall, although technically it was two sectors most or all of those 8 passengers would have been on the inbound after Half Term I’d imagine.
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With the growing number of Amazon warehouses, the possibility of a freeport there seems to be no desire for cargo at Teesside airport. Not even the KLM when operating brought in cargo. Go back to the post Peel years when we had one or occasionally two TNT aircraft further back BMA freight in the pax flight holds and add hoc freight charters up to Antonov 124. The current airport has little or no kit to handle freight these days either.
