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Old 9th Jan 2021, 10:45
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A lot seems to depend on developing the southside.
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Old 9th Jan 2021, 21:52
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Given the circumstances arguably the NQY route did quite well too and is a keeper overall, although technically it was two sectors most or all of those 8 passengers would have been on the inbound after Half Term Id imagine.
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Old 13th Jan 2021, 11:19
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With the growing number of Amazon warehouses, the possibility of a freeport there seems to be no desire for cargo at Teesside airport. Not even the KLM when operating brought in cargo. Go back to the post Peel years when we had one or occasionally two TNT aircraft further back BMA freight in the pax flight holds and add hoc freight charters up to Antonov 124. The current airport has little or no kit to handle freight these days either.
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Old 15th Jan 2021, 18:21
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Airport in the news again. A good location for the civil service offices, if Mr Houchen is successful

https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/ne...move-teesside/
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Old 15th Jan 2021, 18:53
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NO we want aviation related industry. Offices like these are as good as building houses on the site, smell the cheese.
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Old 15th Jan 2021, 19:23
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I honestly think it’s only a matter of time before Amazon turn up. 4 huge warehouses and 2 delivery centres within a short distance soon.
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Old 15th Jan 2021, 20:04
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When they develop the South side (which I hope they do)I hope they have the Bomb Squad on standby, the Canadians were not keen on the paperwork to send munitions back to Canada as the Canadians paid for them, when war ended they just wanted to go home ASAP. Croft Airfield Dump was full of small arms munitions.
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Old 15th Jan 2021, 20:31
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Most of it probably gets trucked from East Midlands.
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Old 15th Jan 2021, 21:16
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No they aren't.
First of all if it's on the Southside it would be a good fit in that not everything has to be aviation related. If it brings jobs and investment that a good thing.
Secondly you would need change of use for what you suggest to happen.
This would be a long term lease with public purse paying into a public airport. For me as long as its not on the North side this is a win win situation for the airport, for the public purse and for the job situation in the whole Teesside/Lower Tees Valley area.
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Old 15th Jan 2021, 22:47
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Will bare to differ on the subject onion. Major did say if aviation doesn't work he will look elsewhere for the whole site. If anything does happen over there its going to be a few years coming, also I can see the treasury digging there heels in the South.
I personally would like to see the proposed large aircraft hangar and storage park, the proposed new parcels depot and aviation specific warehousing/industrial units.

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Old 16th Jan 2021, 06:56
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Odd that the Mayor's offices are fine whereas Peel's housing was rubbished when they both serve the same purpose - improve the viability of the site as a whole through diversification.

Is it confirmed that any offices would be on the Southside? Can't believe that it is the best location on Teesside for a prestige office development - maybe somewhere with some existing infrastructure would be a better fit, Who will want to work in the middle of a damp field miles from anywhere?

From memory the percentage of aviation activity approved in the planning permission has been lowered a couple of times for the Southside development (but how long is exisiting planning permission valid for?)
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Old 16th Jan 2021, 07:19
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Glad someone agrees.
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Old 16th Jan 2021, 08:17
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Yesterday G-SAJG - Loganair's newly named "Spirit of Teesside" - stopped off on the way form Glasgow to Norwich. The plane was at the airport for about 90 minutes during which the mayor apparently did a photo shoot.

Doubt they would be going to all this effort to promote already announced routes so maybe we will soon hear something about Loganair starting LHR? Heathrow website now showing the first flights on 8 March for LM551/552 & LM559/560 (but take that with a huge pinch of salt).
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Old 16th Jan 2021, 08:51
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As previously mentioned jobs are jobs no matter what is built on the South side however I would hope that the plan to use it is based on the Air Freight proposal, there have been plenty of new Offices built on Teesside which have laid empty for years and the Developers have been trying to gain permission to convert them into Student accommodation.
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Old 16th Jan 2021, 10:54
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So Loganair has been placed on every Eastern route, why. We thought Peel was bad.
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Old 16th Jan 2021, 15:05
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Alicante, Cardiff, Isle of Man, London City and Southampton remain exclusive to Eastern.

Regardless of whether the Treasury offices are good or bad (I'm happy enough so long as sufficient space remains for aviation development), note that Beafer is presenting them as a positive, when he would have been the first to go apesh-t if Peel had attempted the exact same.
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Old 16th Jan 2021, 15:44
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I was in agreement with Peel developing the site on a commercial basis but against the Housing - especially on the North Side. I also highlighted on a number of occasions that the housing would never bring in the promised finances Peel claimed.

On the aviation front it is frustrating that they do have 2 operators on the routes. The worry being that the two battle it out and the the airport is left with nothing! The Mayor promises this wont happen, I suppose he is hoping that the competition with have the same impact the last time Logan and Eastern went head to head from the airport.

The airport cannot allow one and not the other, as far as I understand they have to allow the competition.
It could be that the airport have decided to encourage the Logan routes so they can stop the commerical deal with Eastern.
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Old 16th Jan 2021, 21:10
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Alicante - dropped. Presumably due to Ryanair
Cardiff dropped.
Isle of Man - dropped.
London City - ???
Southampton - ???
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Old 16th Jan 2021, 21:13
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What's your source? The airline has at no point said so, nor has the airport?
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Old 16th Jan 2021, 21:22
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Res ipsa loquitur. Cannot see Eastern rushing to get back on any of these routes or even maintain what they have been operating. Perhaps a cunning plan to reduce what the airport possibly has to shell out for each flight that Eastern operates. Encouraging competition on these routes will not work. The likely outcome is one operator or, as someone suggested, perhaps none once this has all played out.
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