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Freight hub is the draftee old hangar 3, no idea why they just didn't build a new one. Will be interesting to see where the new offices are located and who eventually takes them up once the TVCA stop bed jumping.
Last edited by N707ZS; 22nd Oct 2021 at 08:29.
“Loganair is so far the only airline to receive money from a £4.5m Department for the Economy scheme to support Northern Ireland’s domestic air connectivity, Business Telegraph can reveal. The Scottish airline told the Belfast Telegraph it has received money for four Belfast City Airport routes under the NI Domestic Aviation Kickstart Scheme (NIDAKS), which closes in less than a fortnight. It flies to Aberdeen, Dundee, Inverness and Teesside International in England from Belfast”
This On the Loganair site..if loads are as poor as noted..how long will this keep going for I wonder?
Mayor might have to dig deeper into his pockets?🤔
This On the Loganair site..if loads are as poor as noted..how long will this keep going for I wonder?
Mayor might have to dig deeper into his pockets?🤔
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I went for a run around the airport yesterday. There appears to be something being built inside hangar 3 - the outside shell does looks far past it's best but maybe it was cheaper to put something inside it than knock it down?
From the images, I think the TVCA offices will be on the right hand side of the terminal as you face it from the car park - where the nightclub/cafe was. The Skybar looks to be part of this development.
As for BHD, Loganair would have known that the money was going to go away soon, which could explain the cut from 6 a week (Summer) to 4 a week (Winter) - although it is planned to go back to 5 a week next summer.
From the images, I think the TVCA offices will be on the right hand side of the terminal as you face it from the car park - where the nightclub/cafe was. The Skybar looks to be part of this development.
As for BHD, Loganair would have known that the money was going to go away soon, which could explain the cut from 6 a week (Summer) to 4 a week (Winter) - although it is planned to go back to 5 a week next summer.
Even though the work has started there seems to be no applied or passed planning applications. The new offices are on the location of the old works building near hangar 3.
I think there are new offices for the freight building (hangar 3). The new offices mentioned in the airports press release are definitely as described in TT's post above if you watch the video.
There was change of use planning permission for Willis and FedEx to change places but nothing seems to have happened with that.
There was change of use planning permission for Willis and FedEx to change places but nothing seems to have happened with that.
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KLM back to double daily from January. Early flight at 06:05 and mid morning flight at 10:40. 3 daily still showing on klm.com but this looks a bit more reliable to me.
https://teesvalley-ca.gov.uk/time-is...from-teesside/
https://teesvalley-ca.gov.uk/time-is...from-teesside/
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September CAA stats:
Terminal passengers: 10,610 (compared to 11,756 last month, 3,199 passengers in September 2020 and 14,372 in September 2019)
Aberdeen is growing year on year but has dropped 35% from August, reflecting Eastern's withdrawal and the price increases. Loads are holding up at nearly 18 per flight (23 if you include the Bristol passengers) which is very strong compared to what has been seen over the past 5 years. Belfast is also up year-on-year but down compared to August, however still seems to be performing well. Perhaps no surprise that Bristol has been pulled as numbers (excluding charters) on this route on the last 5 months have been 69, 362, 350, 445 and 384 - this is about 7 passengers per flight and must be unsustainable with the loss of the Bristol-Aberdeen transfer passengers now that Loganair have restored their direct Bristol-Aberdeen service. Heathrow numbers continue to show gradual improvement (up 18% v August) and are the highest since the reintroduction of the service but are still below expectations. As expected, Jersey and Newquay were both a bit down on August due to fewer rotations but loads on both routes were the strongest they have been all year.
Hard to judge Amsterdam, 587 passengers is the best month of the year but I think KLM only ran 18 flights in September compared to around 160 a month in pre-covid times and it is hard to see us getting back to 10,000 passengers a month any time soon. Ryanair carried 4,411 passengers in September versus 4,133 in August which is encouraging although it is hard to understand what passenger numbers and loads should be right now. However looking at August (September rotations not yet available), Teesside actually had higher loads for Alicante than either Leeds or Newcastle!
Terminal passengers: 10,610 (compared to 11,756 last month, 3,199 passengers in September 2020 and 14,372 in September 2019)
- Aberdeen: 1,759 (up 102% v Sep last year & up 15% v Sep 2019)
- Belfast City: 797 (up 102% v last yr)
- Bristol: 384
- Jersey: 577 (up 232% v Sep last year & up 49% v Sep 2019)
- Heathrow: 1,402 (up 377% v Sep last year & best month yet)
- Newquay: 519 (up 38% v Sep last year)
- Alicante: 1,668 (1,775 in August)
- Amsterdam: 587 (down 30% v Sep last year & down 95% v Sep 2019)
- Corfu: 797 (495 in August)
- Faro: 991 (702 in August)
- Palma: 995 (1,161 in August)
Aberdeen is growing year on year but has dropped 35% from August, reflecting Eastern's withdrawal and the price increases. Loads are holding up at nearly 18 per flight (23 if you include the Bristol passengers) which is very strong compared to what has been seen over the past 5 years. Belfast is also up year-on-year but down compared to August, however still seems to be performing well. Perhaps no surprise that Bristol has been pulled as numbers (excluding charters) on this route on the last 5 months have been 69, 362, 350, 445 and 384 - this is about 7 passengers per flight and must be unsustainable with the loss of the Bristol-Aberdeen transfer passengers now that Loganair have restored their direct Bristol-Aberdeen service. Heathrow numbers continue to show gradual improvement (up 18% v August) and are the highest since the reintroduction of the service but are still below expectations. As expected, Jersey and Newquay were both a bit down on August due to fewer rotations but loads on both routes were the strongest they have been all year.
Hard to judge Amsterdam, 587 passengers is the best month of the year but I think KLM only ran 18 flights in September compared to around 160 a month in pre-covid times and it is hard to see us getting back to 10,000 passengers a month any time soon. Ryanair carried 4,411 passengers in September versus 4,133 in August which is encouraging although it is hard to understand what passenger numbers and loads should be right now. However looking at August (September rotations not yet available), Teesside actually had higher loads for Alicante than either Leeds or Newcastle!
Last edited by tigertanaka; 26th Oct 2021 at 15:52. Reason: Typo
No smiling mugshot, but the news of the restoration of some of the pre-Covid flights has made it into the local media - there have long been complaints about the current later departure time on social media.
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Loganair now offering ‘direct’ travel to Esbjerg via Aberdeen from next Monday, twice weekly Mon & Wed. Teesside aircraft was already operating this anyway so I guess it makes sense to open up this to Teesside customers. Good news all the same, it’s expected to increase to 4x weekly next March.
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I thought our aircraft did a Newcastle run before coming back? If I'm wrong how come it gets back an hour later now? We've had new routes like this before to Stavanger, Bergen and Wick via Eastern but they all required an aircraft change in Aberdeen, glad to see this is closer to the real deal.
Loganair no longer fly ABZ - NCL, that has been taken over by Eastern, so maybe the a/c had a longer on ground period at ABZ and the extension works well for a/c utilisation
30 min on ground at ABZ from MME to EBJ, but 1h40 in tge other direction to allow for immigration, customs and reclearing security. It's going to feel a lot like a change of flight when travelling from Denmark to Teesside
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In reality how much demand is there for flights from Esbjerg to Teesside? It’s not like it’s a well connected airport with lots of options. If you want to fly there it’s probably still convenient.
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I actually flew ESB-ABZ-NCL in 2019. I was on a work trip to Denmark but there was no late afternoon flight back to Amsterdam from Billund so I took the Loganair flight from Esbjerg to Aberdeen and back to Newcastle (on one ticket). I would have used the Teesside flight if it had been in operation.
Esbjerg airport makes Teesside look like Heathrow. There was a small cafe and car rental drop off but they didn't even accept mobile boarding passes at the gate. I think I was the only non-oil rigger on the (pretty full) plane.
Esbjerg airport makes Teesside look like Heathrow. There was a small cafe and car rental drop off but they didn't even accept mobile boarding passes at the gate. I think I was the only non-oil rigger on the (pretty full) plane.