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Old 15th Dec 2023, 17:52
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Think these figures are pretty average really?

Movements..mentioned.

Passengers figure obviously up…however, not a great increase considering investment and more to the point, next years looks pretty stagnant considering all the bluster?
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Weather has been poor for flying and the pheasant shooting season season is on about zero aircraft.
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Old 15th Dec 2023, 17:56
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Originally Posted by N707ZS
Weather has been poor for flying and the pheasant shooting season season is on about zero aircraft.
Quite right, but when the movements were going up, they got mentioned every month. Same with the cargo stats.

I'm all for a bit of balance.


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Old 15th Dec 2023, 18:17
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Forgot about the cargo figures …and investment in that !

To be fair..a lot of this is bluster from the mayor(and a couple of his fans). The airport has made amazing progress compared to what it was…

But please a little balance(as stated) would be better appreciated and understandable!
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Old 15th Dec 2023, 18:33
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I agree completely r.e. balance but the hunting season has been one of the best in years, every Tuesday, Thursday and Sunday for the best part of two months was rammed
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Grouse shooting was good yes but November December Pheasant shooting hasn't seen much only one regular DA 900 and no sign of Mr Miller.
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Old 15th Dec 2023, 22:39
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
And with credit to Teesside Movements, aircraft movements down for the fourth month in a row.
I got the figures from CAA page.
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Old 15th Dec 2023, 22:49
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This is a good one.
On the Domestic Route Analysis page 12_3 To & From each reporting airport.
Under Teesside it says 41 passengers for Exeter.
Whilst under Exeter it says 85 passengers for Teesside.

Something a miss there, or did 44 do a parachute jump before the plane landed at Teesside.
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Old 16th Dec 2023, 07:40
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Some good numbers there.

A couple of points; pretty obvious we’re hurting on Aberdeen. Really could do with another rotation or two there.

Ryanair/Palma has had lower passengers than 2022 for 3 of the last 4 months. That’s not a Ryanair trend we want to see.
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Old 16th Dec 2023, 07:49
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The Willis Aviation Village is now shown as unknown on the Darlington Council planning decision page
does anyone know what this means
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Old 16th Dec 2023, 07:50
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Originally Posted by P330
Some good numbers there.

A couple of points; pretty obvious we’re hurting on Aberdeen. Really could do with another rotation or two there.

Ryanair/Palma has had lower passengers than 2022 for 3 of the last 4 months. That’s not a Ryanair trend we want to see.
Ryanair seem to have announced additional destinations for 2024 from most airports except Teesside.
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"The Willis Aviation Village is now shown as unknown on the Darlington Council planning decision page
does anyone know what this means"


Despite the mayor making a big anouncement suggesting that planning permission had been granted this apears to have been another of his inventions, probably similar to those at the Freeport. They had until September to comply with numerous planning conditions but made no further submissions. The Willis boys will tell you in confidence that there was never going to be 5 hangers and 250 jobs. Interesting that he has not had the courtesy of responding to several enquiries on his Facebook page.
Similar to deals that the mayor reported had been agreed for the new routes next year perhaps?

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Old 16th Dec 2023, 08:28
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Originally Posted by P330
Some good numbers there.

A couple of points; pretty obvious we’re hurting on Aberdeen. Really could do with another rotation or two there.

Ryanair/Palma has had lower passengers than 2022 for 3 of the last 4 months. That’s not a Ryanair trend we want to see.
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Ryanair seem to have announced additional destinations for 2024 from most airports except Teesside.
If you look at the Movements website, with the exception of ALC, RYR load factors rarely get above 90%. Across the system, RYR average about 95%
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Old 16th Dec 2023, 14:16
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
If you look at the Movements website, with the exception of ALC, RYR load factors rarely get above 90%. Across the system, RYR average about 95%
I believe their reported seat factor includes those booked who noshow. So 90% may be comparable but, as always, it is yield per seat that really matters and that we don’t know.
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Old 17th Dec 2023, 20:51
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Teesside Airport Movements have just listed the provisional Summer 2024 timetable for perusal!

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Re the Aviation Village, there is a "Notice of Grant" dated 12 Dec 2023 on the Darlington Planning site:

https://publicaccess.darlington.gov....=RKF1Q4FPJB600

Teej...
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Old 19th Dec 2023, 15:22
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Thats a bit of good news to finish the year. Planning permissions look complicated and a few restrictions of use.
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Old 19th Dec 2023, 17:46
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“Thats a bit of good news to finish the year”
It just looks like a repeat of the same provisional approval that was granted in the summer and is subject to numerous conditions that have not been complied with.
I think we can be sure that if Willis change their corporate mind and decide to proceed with the village or even a small proportion of it then it will all over a certain politicians Facebook page.
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Old 19th Dec 2023, 17:50
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Originally Posted by Grumpy1
“Thats a bit of good news to finish the year”
It just looks like a repeat of the same provisional approval that was granted in the summer and is subject to numerous conditions that have not been complied with.
I think we can be sure that if Willis change their corporate mind and decide to proceed with the village or even a small proportion of it then it will all over a certain politicians Facebook page.
The conditions all look familiar to me, and they have plenty of time to complete the various actions (and many can't be complied with now)
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Certain persons facebook page is too busy exalting the success of the freight village and figures..sad that people actually believe all this bluster!🤪
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