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TUI haven’t been able to get AGA off the ground yet always been cancelled before season starts
lets wait to see if they start it in 2024 as planned
Marrakesh I’m thinking is more of an Ryanair route If it was ever to happen
lets wait to see if they start it in 2024 as planned
Marrakesh I’m thinking is more of an Ryanair route If it was ever to happen
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We haven’t got anyone starting Agadir in 2024, unfortunately.
I agree that Marrakech would probably be best suited to Ryanair.
Both Marrakech and Agadir are quite surprising omissions from our route network. I imagine we will see Jet2 start one or both at some point, and that could spur TUI on to launch Agadir. I can’t see why a small handful of weekly flights to Morocco wouldn’t work from NCL, especially with the critical mass of Jet2 and TUI’s package offers
I agree that Marrakech would probably be best suited to Ryanair.
Both Marrakech and Agadir are quite surprising omissions from our route network. I imagine we will see Jet2 start one or both at some point, and that could spur TUI on to launch Agadir. I can’t see why a small handful of weekly flights to Morocco wouldn’t work from NCL, especially with the critical mass of Jet2 and TUI’s package offers
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I think you might be mistaken. Sharm El Sheikh and Sal are our only two new routes for Summer 2024. Agadir went on sale for Summer 2020 back in May 2019 and was never launched unfortunately.
You do have a valid point, they haven’t gone to the effort of re-launching it. Hopefully they reconsider at some point, we’ll see.
NCL-Morocco could well be a case of waiting for a bus, if Jet2 jump in, TUI could well follow to protect their market share. Africa is their “thing.”
Whether we see Ryanair jump in on Marrakech, who knows. But I hope they do.
You do have a valid point, they haven’t gone to the effort of re-launching it. Hopefully they reconsider at some point, we’ll see.
NCL-Morocco could well be a case of waiting for a bus, if Jet2 jump in, TUI could well follow to protect their market share. Africa is their “thing.”
Whether we see Ryanair jump in on Marrakech, who knows. But I hope they do.
just going back to this. Interesting to note that one week before October half term, Jet2 have 13 departures from NCl tomorrow giving loads of half term options☺️. TUI have 2 departures 🙁. I appreciate I’m the only one bothered by this but it does seem one has their eye on the regional market and the other not so!
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just going back to this. Interesting to note that one week before October half term, Jet2 have 13 departures from NCl tomorrow giving loads of half term options☺️. TUI have 2 departures 🙁. I appreciate I’m the only one bothered by this but it does seem one has their eye on the regional market and the other not so!
FYI - it’s actually 4 departures for TUI, not 2.
I think you’re making a mountain of a molehill, personally, and looking into it far too much. Clearly, TUI’s transition from summer to winter scheduling is different to Jet2 and it has been this case, from what I can recall, with TUI for many, many years.
FYI - it’s actually 4 departures for TUI, not 2.
FYI - it’s actually 4 departures for TUI, not 2.
I feel as though I’m helping the marketing team by highlighting a deficiency of holiday choice and options! The winter programme for the first week of November is no good for families with school age children :-)
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P.S. Isn’t half-term holiday this week, meaning school kids will be back next week?
half term is next week so anyone wanting to go away will go Wednesday - Sunday this week but they’ll struggle with TUI from NCL!!
while it’s common knowledge that prices go up
for the school holidays, Jet2 move additional aircraft to NCL, summer routes start up in time for the last week of May etc etc TUi have just don’t bother for the NE October half term!
Slightly tongue in cheek but positioning flights are no good for a holiday!!
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Agree completely.
Half term is split in the region, but for most it is next week. We like to go away in October but have much reduced choice because of what you’ve explained. Thank goodness for Jet2.
Half term is split in the region, but for most it is next week. We like to go away in October but have much reduced choice because of what you’ve explained. Thank goodness for Jet2.
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thats the point - no!
half term is next week so anyone wanting to go away will go Wednesday - Sunday this week but they’ll struggle with TUI from NCL!!
while it’s common knowledge that prices go up
for the school holidays, Jet2 move additional aircraft to NCL, summer routes start up in time for the last week of May etc etc TUi have just don’t bother for the NE October half term!
Slightly tongue in cheek but positioning flights are no good for a holiday!!
half term is next week so anyone wanting to go away will go Wednesday - Sunday this week but they’ll struggle with TUI from NCL!!
while it’s common knowledge that prices go up
for the school holidays, Jet2 move additional aircraft to NCL, summer routes start up in time for the last week of May etc etc TUi have just don’t bother for the NE October half term!
Slightly tongue in cheek but positioning flights are no good for a holiday!!
This is the likes of Crete, Kos, Dalaman etc. In recent years, the weather for these resorts has been awful at this time of year, but thankfully for those visiting this year it will be better. Most of these resorts begin shutting down mid-October. It’s likely if you go to some resorts in these destinations then there won’t be a great deal open. I’ve had a family member experience this last week for a resort in Crete where most are beginning to shut up shop.
The fact Jet2 have seats to Heraklion on both Monday and Tuesday for £45 would tell you this isn’t as popular as you think. Consumers clearly will go with the Airline, which would be Jet2 in this case, with the most availability and routes but it’s not as black and white as you make it out to be. There clearly wouldn’t be enough demand, IMO, for two carriers to serve these sort of routes at this time of year.
Most would prefer to go to the Canaries and this is something that’s covered by TUI, Jet2 and Ryanair very frequently - especially during October-April.
Sometimes this forum makes me laugh, TUI have their downfalls but I’m pretty sure they have a decent revenue management team!
Much of the Med and N Africa sees a sudden change in weather around late October - even places like Morocco - and Malta in early November can be pretty unpleasant for example
It should be quite obvious why they don’t. Jet2 have a wider route network from NCL every summer and when it comes to October, the majority of TUI’s destinations are winding down in resort. Jet2 have obviously taken the decision to continue operating these routes slightly later.
This is the likes of Crete, Kos, Dalaman etc. In recent years, the weather for these resorts has been awful at this time of year, but thankfully for those visiting this year it will be better. Most of these resorts begin shutting down mid-October. It’s likely if you go to some resorts in these destinations then there won’t be a great deal open. I’ve had a family member experience this last week for a resort in Crete where most are beginning to shut up shop.
The fact Jet2 have seats to Heraklion on both Monday and Tuesday for £45 would tell you this isn’t as popular as you think. Consumers clearly will go with the Airline, which would be Jet2 in this case, with the most availability and routes but it’s not as black and white as you make it out to be. There clearly wouldn’t be enough demand, IMO, for two carriers to serve these sort of routes at this time of year.
Most would prefer to go to the Canaries and this is something that’s covered by TUI, Jet2 and Ryanair very frequently - especially during October-April.
Sometimes this forum makes me laugh, TUI have their downfalls but I’m pretty sure they have a decent revenue management team!
This is the likes of Crete, Kos, Dalaman etc. In recent years, the weather for these resorts has been awful at this time of year, but thankfully for those visiting this year it will be better. Most of these resorts begin shutting down mid-October. It’s likely if you go to some resorts in these destinations then there won’t be a great deal open. I’ve had a family member experience this last week for a resort in Crete where most are beginning to shut up shop.
The fact Jet2 have seats to Heraklion on both Monday and Tuesday for £45 would tell you this isn’t as popular as you think. Consumers clearly will go with the Airline, which would be Jet2 in this case, with the most availability and routes but it’s not as black and white as you make it out to be. There clearly wouldn’t be enough demand, IMO, for two carriers to serve these sort of routes at this time of year.
Most would prefer to go to the Canaries and this is something that’s covered by TUI, Jet2 and Ryanair very frequently - especially during October-April.
Sometimes this forum makes me laugh, TUI have their downfalls but I’m pretty sure they have a decent revenue management team!
a casual observation that the largest and most profitable tour operator builds in NE half term while TUi don’t shouldn’t have upset you so much!
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You don’t seem to grasp either, like another poster has also mentioned, that the likes of Greece, Turkey and Malta can have unpleasant conditions this time of year and it’s pot luck. You could book anywhere and it could p*ss it down but it’s far more likely in the destinations that have been mentioned. Hence why less people would be interested in travelling somewhere where things may be closed and the weather is very hit and miss.
As far as I’m concerned, it’s a complete non story. NCL isn’t a London airport or pulling in anywhere near the numbers of Manchester, take your rose tinted glasses off and you might see the bigger picture!