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Well Rex, the vast majority of seats cost way above £170, that’s not to suggest the financial performance is well below what is required.
For at least the last 5 years the demise of NAS has been forecast by all manner of armchair accountants, but for now it’s still here. The long held view is that NAS will never be truly profitable until it stops expanding, that there is staggering waste is not disputed, so maybe slamming on the brakes might cause a change of direction.
Longer term my best guess is that it will be acquired by another major group.
For at least the last 5 years the demise of NAS has been forecast by all manner of armchair accountants, but for now it’s still here. The long held view is that NAS will never be truly profitable until it stops expanding, that there is staggering waste is not disputed, so maybe slamming on the brakes might cause a change of direction.
Longer term my best guess is that it will be acquired by another major group.
Had a look at going to US in Feb, flying Dub - Providence (RI) was £320. Now got told that but its not Boston or New York both of which we had down to see but NYC was £700 and BOS was £650. No idea how they can but would not have complained. Decided sunshine instead.
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No Premium ticket lounge access unless you buy a flex ticket and no free cocktails on board for those passengers!
Frankly, having experienced the Norwegian Premium product, the loss is inconsequential, simply as what they provide to me is incredibly better than any other Premier Economy products that I have sampled elsewhere.
Frankly, having experienced the Norwegian Premium product, the loss is inconsequential, simply as what they provide to me is incredibly better than any other Premier Economy products that I have sampled elsewhere.
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I'm not going to join the "it is/isn't" down to Brexit debate but no one has mentioned the Sterling exchange rate. The weak pound makes it more expensive to travel abroad from the UK and decreases the yield airlines obtain from UK sales. It does however encourage people to visit the UK as it has become a much cheaper destination.
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Oh dear God man! Did you in all seriousness blame the housing crisis on a vote to leave the EU? Housebuilding has been constrained for decades to keep prices HIGH, you can’t buy a house because we’re not building nearly enough and haven’t done since Thatcher.
In aviation terms, if easyJet and Ryanair really do start moving units out of Gatwick and Stansted onto the continent, then you’ll have a point. But look at how many MORE aircraft EZY are ADDING to MAN by way of example?
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Nothing to do with Brexit, but it suits many management to blame it.
I can remember when the minimum wage was proposed, those against it made headlines about a massive rise in unemployment which never happened. Now we have companies appearing on the TV complaining about how their wage bills will rise due to a lack of unlimited cheap labour and in fact a labour shortage.
Well I hope they do rise as too many people are struggling to make ends meet but parliament will water down Brexit so much that it will be in name only. No wonder the EU is remaining firm when there are those that undermine our negotiating position from day one.
In the south all of London's 6 airports are planning massive expansion so clearly they are not bothered as they can see further than April.
If you read my first post which started all this you’ll see it was never suggested Norwegian’s woes are down to Brexit. The original poster enquired whether the charter flights Norwegian operate for TUI would be replaced by Air Europa etc. I said no because they are ditching third party flights due to lack of demand. Which apparently is nothing to do with Brexit either as Brexit is the sunny uplands..
Not everything is Brexit no, but a lot of things clearly are and in others it’s really not helping matters. I could go on giving tangible examples such as property sales being at a thirty year low but some people will argue black is white in defence of “the will of the people”, so I’ll just leave it there.
Oh dear God man! Did you in all seriousness blame the housing crisis on a vote to leave the EU? Housebuilding has been constrained for decades to keep prices HIGH, you can’t buy a house because we’re not building nearly enough and haven’t done since Thatcher
(2) the “land banking” by big house builders to artificially force up property prices and the failure of planning regulations to prevent this; and
(3) the explosion of buy-to-let in recent years
have more to do with this rather than brexit (or the EU for that matter!)
I'm not going to join the "it is/isn't" down to Brexit debate but no one has mentioned the Sterling exchange rate.
BTW after all this time since the referendum, the UK is STILL in the EU.
Actually there is an argument that mass migration in some areas has helped create a housing shortage.
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https://www.poundsterlinglive.com/ba...gbp/GBP-to-EUR
https://www.oanda.com/currency/help/euro
Sunny uplands? Only possible with a proper Brexit.
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Always strikes me as odd, when an airline decides To go up against the big boys with Longhaul. most will say I have my own engender but a money maker would be a base at Stansted, no competition no price to under cut, I’m not saying pull out of Gatwick just run it along side. Im not wanting this to turn into “longhaul doesn’t work at Stansted”, primera was very popular whilst it lasted. just my opinion nothing more nothing less.
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My point was, people want to fly across the pond from Stansted, many drive past Stansted just to get to Heathrow and Gatwick, Someone is going to get there first and others will follow.
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Never mentioned anything about Stansted, good luck to Emirates and anybody else who want to fly from there, my point was pure economics. A few years ago a specialist cruise company were losing £50 on every client, guess what it went bust. I rest my case.
short flights long nights
Down here in Australia we seem to do fine without being a member of the EU.. I struggle to see the problem of leaving?
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Always strikes me as odd, when an airline decides To go up against the big boys with Longhaul. most will say I have my own engender but a money maker would be a base at Stansted, no competition no price to under cut, I’m not saying pull out of Gatwick just run it along side. Im not wanting this to turn into “longhaul doesn’t work at Stansted”, primera was very popular whilst it lasted. just my opinion nothing more nothing less.
Thats not to say long haul wouldnt work at STN because I believe it can, but to do so for greater profitability on the basis of escaping competition is flawed.
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I have it on good authority (from someone who should know) that Stansted has a smaller catchment area for long haul than Gatwick has, so hence why the movement towards Gatwick.
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I have it on good authority (from someone who should know) that Stansted has a smaller catchment area for long haul than Gatwick has, so hence why the movement towards Gatwick.