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I wouldn't have thought there's much in it economics-wise between Q400's and ATR 72's, though from a passenger perspective having been on both I prefer the ATR 72's and if it's -600's the bigger overhead luggage bins will be an improvement over the -212A/500's from EI-REL/M's time based at IOM. One negative of having aircraft based at IOM from the last time is if one of them goes tech or if there are delays it impacts the rest of the day's programme, whereas at the moment they can swap aircraft at BHX or MAN.
I do wonder whether this is one area where the new regime are flexing their muscles on the business and who's driving the change?
I do wonder whether this is one area where the new regime are flexing their muscles on the business and who's driving the change?
To be fair to Stobart, I've been on the receiving end of needing to wait for a replacement aircraft getting off the IOM and it led to a <2hr delay. Nothing too drastic in my view.
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Latest stats show 64.5 per flight which isn’t too bad considering it wasn’t really peak business timings. Sadly this was always likely to be temporary until such time as the slot was needed for something more lucrative
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Considering the short notice of the flight and the timings, average 83% LF on a Dash 8 is reasonable. If anything, it's proven there is a market that could be tapped into if slots become available again and timings are more favourable for business trips and connecting on/off flights out of LHR, though at the same time IOM is also a prime candidate for feeding MAN once VS/Virgin Connect advance their hub plans there (though I accept you can't fly to as many destinations directly from MAN compared to LHR).
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I think there has to be a fairly high level of risk that if IOM/LHR were ever to become a permanent fixture, it would spell the end of at least one other existing IOM/LON service. LGW was down 1,000 pax in July, LCY was down 1,000 pax in August versus last year. The market has grown slightly, but not by the same proportion as the capacity injected. Before there is any excitement about the ongoing viability of IOM/LHR, it merits some consideration of whether it would be a sustainable addition to the IOM network or whether it would displace one of the other links - LCY likely being the one most at risk.
Trying to think what we had when I was at BMA LHR when we started the IOM with 2 x 73 seat Viscount flights a day
IOM 0730/0830 LHR 0900/1000 IOM BD301/302
plus the evening peak time flight in and out of LHR around 1830 or 1900 iirc
We took the slots from BA
Also we had 3 or 4 Viscount flights a day LPL-IOM (that also connected nicely with the 4 or 5 daily LHR-LPL services usually)
IOM 0730/0830 LHR 0900/1000 IOM BD301/302
plus the evening peak time flight in and out of LHR around 1830 or 1900 iirc
We took the slots from BA
Also we had 3 or 4 Viscount flights a day LPL-IOM (that also connected nicely with the 4 or 5 daily LHR-LPL services usually)
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Trying to think what we had when I was at BMA LHR when we started the IOM with 2 x 73 seat Viscount flights a day
IOM 0730/0830 LHR 0900/1000 IOM BD301/302
plus the evening peak time flight in and out of LHR around 1830 or 1900 iirc
We took the slots from BA
Also we had 3 or 4 Viscount flights a day LPL-IOM (that also connected nicely with the 4 or 5 daily LHR-LPL services usually)
IOM 0730/0830 LHR 0900/1000 IOM BD301/302
plus the evening peak time flight in and out of LHR around 1830 or 1900 iirc
We took the slots from BA
Also we had 3 or 4 Viscount flights a day LPL-IOM (that also connected nicely with the 4 or 5 daily LHR-LPL services usually)
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That's why BMA (then Manx was formed a bit later on ) had the early morning and the evening flights into and out of LHR from around 1979 - plus connex via LPL too
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Manx used to have x3 rotations a day into LHR, also LTN. I used both extensively, LHR from 1980 and LTN from as soon as they started (2000 I think) and then had to use LGW (I live in Hertfordshire) and was glad when my mother returned to the mainland.
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Have you actually read the numerous previous posts on this topic, and understood that, this was only ever a fixed term 'slot-sitting' exercise, being operated to protect a slot pair for Virgin/Delta.
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BACF LCY frequency increase?
BACF have been allocated additional slots at LCY to increase frequency to IOM for the S20 schedule from 18 to 23 x weekly, according to page 7 of ACL’s LCY S20 Initial Coordination report.
https://www.acl-uk.org/wp-content/up...ion-report.pdf
https://www.acl-uk.org/wp-content/up...ion-report.pdf
