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Old 6th Mar 2020, 18:55
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The capacity reduction was planned for months and months now. The price problem is all over the EZY network, just there has been a rush of people rebooking who were sheduled with BE. You can't rework shedules at the drop of a hat. Perhaps you should approach BA as they have slashed capacity to Milan from UK so have planes sitting around!
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Old 6th Mar 2020, 19:09
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I understand the problem is related to people booking flights who were previously booked with BE but I don't think it is morally right for Easyjet ( a supposed low cost airline) to be charging the fares they are one sector is now £331 on one day! That simply is not right and is blatant profiteering those that suggest Easyjet is the answer need to reflect on their behaviour when there are difficult times.
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Old 6th Mar 2020, 19:22
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I'd recommend anyone read Paul Quine's submission to Tynwald committee ref Openskies - http://www.tynwald.org.im/business/c...(redacted).pdf

For things to work properly, they need to be based here and pilots who gain experience getting used to flying here. Period.
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Old 6th Mar 2020, 19:28
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Originally Posted by JSCL View Post
I'd recommend anyone read Paul Quine's submission to Tynwald committee ref Openskies - http://www.tynwald.org.im/business/c...(redacted).pdf

For things to work properly, they need to be based here and pilots who gain experience getting used to flying here. Period.
Written in 2017. Claims open skies has an adverse effect on frequencies. Yet ignores flybe Manchester x 4, flybe lpl x 3/4 and easyjet lpl
claims local pilots would make different decisions about whether to fly based on their local knowledge of weather.

I find that last point insensitive and irresponsible. Especially considering the manx 2 maverick who whilst not manx born and bred were living in the rock.
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Old 7th Mar 2020, 06:33
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Originally Posted by JSCL View Post
I'd recommend anyone read Paul Quine's submission to Tynwald committee ref Openskies - http://www.tynwald.org.im/business/c...(redacted).pdf

For things to work properly, they need to be based here and pilots who gain experience getting used to flying here. Period.
Interesting reading , I think he has a valid point
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Old 7th Mar 2020, 08:56
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Originally Posted by lfc84 View Post
Written in 2017. Claims open skies has an adverse effect on frequencies. Yet ignores flybe Manchester x 4, flybe lpl x 3/4 and easyjet lpl
claims local pilots would make different decisions about whether to fly based on their local knowledge of weather.

I find that last point insensitive and irresponsible. Especially considering the manx 2 maverick who whilst not manx born and bred were living in the rock.
Let's not talk about M2.

But what I will say about PQ - he is a true professional and has worked for Flybe for what, 11 years now I think it is? Had the pleasure of being on one of his flights recently and he did something that no away-based pilot would do, because he had the knowledge. Other aircraft diverting because of crosswinds on the main runway - RWY26 - but he landed on RWY21 where winds were more manageable. That allowed continuinty of the schedule. It's not dangerous, it just requires knowledge and experience of IOM operations.
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Old 7th Mar 2020, 10:20
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Safety comes first, rather than "local knowledge".
if that results in non locals being more cautious, then so be it
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Old 7th Mar 2020, 11:07
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EasyJet now charging £356.99 from Liverpool to isle of Man on one day! Absolutely disgraceful and totally immoral.
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Old 7th Mar 2020, 11:19
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That obviously discourages people from making new reservations whilst holding seats for the flybe rescue fare
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Old 7th Mar 2020, 11:56
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Most days next week sold out but if you look a little further into future still £22.99. Everyone rebooking today no doubt. It's a computer program tried and tested way of managing fares, all airlines do the same. You try booking RYR Dublin to Bristol for Cheltenham Races. People like you stabbing at a booking engine will be noted by the booking server which will push fares up as well!
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Old 7th Mar 2020, 13:03
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I fully understand its an automatic ticketing system. I still don't get its right that they should be charging over £300 for a ticket especially when they call themselves a low cost airline!!! At a time when the island needs flight connections I just don't understand why people think an airline that reduces capacity and does this is good. And for the record I was not stabbing for the sake of it I am trying to book a flight but cannot afford £350!
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Old 7th Mar 2020, 13:05
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Hearing that stobart crews are on standby on the Island.... any truth in this?
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Old 7th Mar 2020, 13:08
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Originally Posted by IOMX View Post
I fully understand its an automatic ticketing system. I still don't get its right that they should be charging over £300 for a ticket especially when they call themselves a low cost airline!!! At a time when the island needs flight connections I just don't understand why people think an airline that reduces capacity and does this is good. And for the record I was not stabbing for the sake of it I am trying to book a flight but cannot afford £350!
you clearly can't read
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Old 7th Mar 2020, 13:15
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Hearing that stobart crews are on standby on the Island.... any truth in this?
Not sure if they are. But my understanding is that interested airlines dont have capacity in fleet and crew and Stobart sub-OP is an option for one of the two 'interested parties'. But these things take time.
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Old 7th Mar 2020, 13:28
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I assure you lfc84 I can read its just that I don't agree with your comment! If they really cared that much and it was important they would hold seats for a rescue rather than charging £350. There is always the chance that someone who really needs to buys the ticket because they have no choice in which case Easyjet have profiteered from a very unfortunate situation and that is what I don't think is right.
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Old 7th Mar 2020, 13:30
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Originally Posted by IOMX View Post
I assure you lfc84 I can read its just that I don't agree with your comment! If they really cared that much and it was important they would hold seats for a rescue rather than charging £350. There is always the chance that someone who really needs to buys the ticket because they have no choice in which case Easyjet have profiteered from a very unfortunate situation and that is what I don't think is right.
If it says sold out, you aren't going to phone up for the rescue fare
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Old 7th Mar 2020, 14:42
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Originally Posted by flyerguy View Post
Hearing that stobart crews are on standby on the Island.... any truth in this?
My understanding is all of them are on standby, but not from the IOM, rather from their Southend base.
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Old 7th Mar 2020, 14:43
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My understanding is all of them are on standby, but not from the IOM, rather from their Southend base.
Been told both bases are on standby and stobart are working to get flights back flying? Not sure how true
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Old 7th Mar 2020, 14:44
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Originally Posted by JSCL View Post
Let's not talk about M2.

But what I will say about PQ - he is a true professional and has worked for Flybe for what, 11 years now I think it is? Had the pleasure of being on one of his flights recently and he did something that no away-based pilot would do, because he had the knowledge. Other aircraft diverting because of crosswinds on the main runway - RWY26 - but he landed on RWY21 where winds were more manageable. That allowed continuinty of the schedule. It's not dangerous, it just requires knowledge and experience of IOM operations.
Sorry, but this heroic talk is nonsense. Your airline SOP either allows you to land on 21 or it doesnít. Iíve had both cases. The circle to land is no big deal but itís equally understandable why some airlines donít allow it, certainly at night.
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Old 7th Mar 2020, 21:10
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Originally Posted by flyerguy View Post
Been told both bases are on standby and stobart are working to get flights back flying? Not sure how true
There is indeed a full compliment of Stobart flight crew and cabin crew on the island rostered for standby until the end of the month. That may change at any time of course. Their ATR72 EIGPN is still at the airport, whereas most if not all of their fleet from Belfast and Edinburgh have been brought back to Dublin.

My best guess is that the Stobart Crew will be operating again within 2 weeks but they'll be wearing tartan.
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