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Old 28th Aug 2019, 15:51
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And excellent reliability. The Winter will be very telling in fairness
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Old 29th Aug 2019, 13:53
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Originally Posted by EGPO View Post
Still being a brand new Airport, with poor links, axlack of signage .
And very early days .
It still could be a success, they sure made a good effort with Southend .
It just needs time
It's not comparable with Southend, its proximity to London makes a huge difference.

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Old 29th Aug 2019, 15:34
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Originally Posted by SealinkBF View Post
No idea on load factors vs yield but for a new service that sounds not too bad.
Agree. Will be interesting to see others. word of mouth will spread for outbound locals too
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Old 29th Aug 2019, 16:49
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Originally Posted by Back at NH View Post
It's not comparable with Southend, its proximity to London makes a huge difference.
I think if CAX ends up with 10% of the pax at SEN, that will be considered a huge success.
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Old 29th Aug 2019, 18:05
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Originally Posted by EGPO View Post
Still being a brand new Airport, with poor links, axlack of signage .
And very early days .
It still could be a success, they sure made a good effort with Southend .
It just needs time
Links are perfect by car and free car park. Believe there is also a mini bus. Signage no problem both ways from the A689.
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Old 30th Aug 2019, 11:06
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Extract from today's News and Star https://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/1...gency-landing/

A spokesperson for Loganair said: "Loganair flight LM635 from Carlisle and Dublin returned to Carlisle this morning shortly after take-off as a result of a fault on the left-hand engine. The Saab 340 aircraft with 15 customers and three crew members aboard landed safely and normally at Carlisle with emergency services in attendance as a precautionary measure.

"Today's services between Carlisle and Dublin have unfortunately been cancelled as a result of this issue, and customers will be offered alternative flights to and from Dublin with ground transport. Later flights today between Carlisle and Belfast City and Carlisle and London Southend will operate as normal using a replacement aircraft which is being flown into Carlisle to take over the services whilst an engineering inspection on the first aircraft takes place.
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Old 30th Aug 2019, 11:38
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Originally Posted by mabmac View Post
a replacement aircraft which is being flown into Carlisle to take over the services whilst an engineering inspection on the first aircraft takes place.
LOG830F on its way from Dundee
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Old 30th Aug 2019, 13:23
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Thought they had a spare airframe at CAX?
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Old 30th Aug 2019, 14:00
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It's been flying in Sweden for the past week.

Loganair website is showing CAX-SEN-CAX as cancelled.
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Old 30th Aug 2019, 16:49
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The Nyxair SAAB that was providing back-up but has been flying in Sweden this week, is heading back towards CAX.
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Old 24th Sep 2019, 16:12
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CAA stats are out for July.

CAX - SEN: 613 passengers
CAX - BHD: 783 passengers

I make it 16 rotations to Southend and 20 to Belfast during July after the opening on the 4th - so an average of 19 and 20 passengers per flight.
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Old 25th Sep 2019, 12:42
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is that good or bad?
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Old 25th Sep 2019, 14:00
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Originally Posted by adg737800 View Post
CAA stats are out for July.
CAX - SEN: 613 passengers
CAX - BHD: 783 passengers
I make it 16 rotations to Southend and 20 to Belfast during July after the opening on the 4th - so an average of 19 and 20 passengers per flight.
For a start-up route to a previously unserved destination I would have been looking for a load factor of around 60% in the first month of operation and they're both very close to that.
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Old 25th Sep 2019, 19:11
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July..first exciting month....let’s watch the next few months..
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Old 25th Sep 2019, 21:40
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Talking to someone within Loganair who initially helped with the start up, they are pleased with the loading especially on the Belfast and Dublin routes. Slightly disappointed with the Southend but early days, no one is worried and time will tell
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Old 26th Sep 2019, 12:17
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Heard the same from them. Seems to have leveled off around the low 20's on all the routes. Good start.
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Old 12th Oct 2019, 10:37
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Carlisle Instrument Approaches

The challenge will come mainly December thru to February with lowering cloud bases and no ILS.

Siberian high pressure systems would be the answer for long periods of time.
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Old 12th Oct 2019, 12:35
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Don't think SEN unique to Carlisle, the GLA service a bit of a dudd thus far also and has already required a time and frequency change to try and bolster
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Old 12th Oct 2019, 12:38
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I flew one way SEN-CAX the other day. 16 got off from CAX (mostly in suits), 16 of us headed north (mostly older folk going to lakes). The FA said loads were dropping off on the route now its heading out of peak summer but that the last few weeks and school holidays had been good. So well see what the stats say.

There looked like a decent number of people waiting to board the next leg to Belfast.
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Old 12th Oct 2019, 12:42
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Originally Posted by VickersVicount View Post
Don't think SEN unique to Carlisle, the GLA service a bit of a dudd thus far also and has already required a time and frequency change to try and bolster
I think it varies, the morning I travelled the CAX service had more on board than GLA but the inbound GLA was busiest of the three LM arrivals
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