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Old 23rd Jul 2018, 09:20
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MAN-SZG is returning for the ski season in December, any other new routes from MAN for the winter.
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Old 23rd Jul 2018, 09:39
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Looks to be just LCY/CMF/SZG ex-MAN again this winter. The only extra slots BA have applied for at MAN is to increase LHR and start a new Sun Air route to Oslo.
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Old 23rd Jul 2018, 13:29
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The only extra slots BA have applied for at MAN is to increase LHR and start a new Sun Air route to Oslo.
The LHR schedule ex MAN for winter is currently showing quite significant reductions over last winters ops at the moment. This could be that the schedule is still work in progress, but at the moment, the second nightstopper that operates in winter is showing operating in only a few days of the week. Some days are showing as low as 6/day mid week as opposed to 9/day last year.
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Old 23rd Jul 2018, 13:49
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Could be a work in progress then as they have applied for 64 extra slots this winter (but of course may not use those extra slots). Sun Air have applied for 264 extra slots this winter to facilitate OSL.
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Old 27th Jul 2018, 17:47
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Has BACF AOG? I am right now at LCY and they are cancelling as if there is no tomorrow - flights to AMS, GLA, FRA, TXL, GVA all cancelled
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Have you seen the weather?
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Old 28th Jul 2018, 07:03
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Sure, I was in the middle of it. But as noone else was cancelling (except a Lufthansa and a Flybe flight) and most of the BA cancellations were hours in advance, what exactly was BACFs problem?
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Old 28th Jul 2018, 07:18
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I don't know for certain, but guessing the BACF's mostly night-stop in LCY. If they all departed they'd probably have struggled to get them all back in again, meaning they'd have aircraft displaced for this morning also. All the non-based airlines will of course try to get out wherever possible, they don't want to be stuck in LCY when they need to be in say AMS, DUB etc. for this morning.
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Originally Posted by FRatSTN
I don't know for certain, but guessing the BACF's mostly night-stop in LCY. If they all departed they'd probably have struggled to get them all back in again, meaning they'd have aircraft displaced for this morning also. All the non-based airlines will of course try to get out wherever possible, they don't want to be stuck in LCY when they need to be in say AMS, DUB etc. for this morning.
I noticed that BACF had scheduled three flights to GLA after 9 pm, presumably to position aircraft for weekend flights?

I was asking if they are short of aircraft as I noticed G-LCYL at SEN in the morning plus an all white E170 (Eastern?)
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Old 28th Jul 2018, 16:54
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Lots of Cityflyer crew are Scottish base. So those evening flights to Glasgow get crew home, they carry folk heading to Scotland for the weekend (they're usually well loaded) and position the aircraft ready for the Barrhead work over the weekend.
The cancellations last evening left lots of folk stranded, including my partner who wasn't best pleased to get up in the middle of the night so he could get the first train out of Euston!
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Old 28th Jul 2018, 18:49
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BRS - Florence

Why was the Bristol to Florence flight cancelled?

This flight is always delayed, I had a nightmare of a flight last month. In addition to delays on both journeys the pilot removed all hold baggage from the plane as the aircraft was too heavy. I was a fan of British Airways but not anymore unfortunately.
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Old 28th Jul 2018, 20:11
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FLR is a poor choice of airport. Unfortunately its short runway and susceptibility to inclement weather mean that a disproportionate number of flights end up getting cancelled or diverting to PSA. Hopefully once the runway extension is built it will alleviate the situation to some degree.
Depending on the operating aircraft type, some operators get more penalised than others.
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Old 28th Jul 2018, 20:15
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Originally Posted by ELondonPax
Lots of Cityflyer crew are Scottish base. So those evening flights to Glasgow get crew home, they carry folk heading to Scotland for the weekend (they're usually well loaded) and position the aircraft ready for the Barrhead work over the weekend.

Thanks for the info - I was not aware that this Friday schedule to GLA is not the exception, but the norm:
BA8730 LCY 21:00 - 22:20 GLA
BA8740 LCY 21:15 - 22:35 GLA
BA2210 LCY 21:30 - 22:50 GLA
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Old 28th Jul 2018, 20:28
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Bristol to Florence

Originally Posted by TartinTon
FLR is a poor choice of airport. Unfortunately its short runway and susceptibility to inclement weather mean that a disproportionate number of flights end up getting cancelled or diverting to PSA. Hopefully once the runway extension is built it will alleviate the situation to some degree.
Depending on the operating aircraft type, some operators get more penalised than others.
Thanks, will definitely learn by my mistake and fly to Pisa next time. The incoming aircraft from London City to Florence arrived on time on a sunny day. The flight to Bristol was delayed 3hrs and all bags were offloaded as the aircraft was too heavy. Boarded twice and even got to the edge of the runway, passengers had to return to terminal as more fuel had to be added. I don’t think the small aircraft (Embraer 170] could cope with the jouney. Bags eventually came a week later which was another nightmare.

On a separate note does anyone know BAs response times to deal with delayed compensation claims? I completed the form at the end of June but haven’t heard anything.
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Old 28th Jul 2018, 20:35
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Originally Posted by Welshtraveller
Why was the Bristol to Florence flight cancelled?

This flight is always delayed, I had a nightmare of a flight last month. In addition to delays on both journeys the pilot removed all hold baggage from the plane as the aircraft was too heavy. I was a fan of British Airways but not anymore unfortunately.
Looking at FR24 E170 G-LCYG operated LCY-FLR three hours late this morning. It then operated FLR-BRS arriving at the latter at 1544 (sched arrival 1225). Instead of returning to FLR with Italy-bound passengers from BRS the flight is shown as cancelled.

All that is shown for the aircraft on FR24's aircraft flight history page is that it departed BRS at 1647 this afternoon with no destination shown. The page shows its next work as STN-FLR tomorrow morning so I'm assuming it went there from BRS.

The BRS website arrivals page shows the FLR-BRS as 'Arrived' but there is no information regarding its deparure on the airport's departures page except the unhelpful note 'Go to Departures' which has been in place since this afternoon.

A poster on another website who was due to travel with his family today said he received an app message from the airline saying today's FLR-BRS was cancelled.

Could this have been a crew hours issue bearing in mind the late running of the earlier sectors?
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Old 29th Jul 2018, 08:20
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Originally Posted by MerchantVenturer
Could this have been a crew hours issue bearing in mind the late running of the earlier sectors?
Yes, I think your correct as the crew must have been out of hours due to the delay and the London City to Florence & Florence to Bristol sector. I feel sorry for the poor passengers once again.
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Old 29th Jul 2018, 10:11
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Last weekend's flight was delayed overnight from Saturday afternoon to Sunday morning too, not good performance!
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Old 29th Jul 2018, 19:12
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Originally Posted by bravoromeosierra
Last weekend's flight was delayed overnight from Saturday afternoon to Sunday morning too, not good performance!
that was due to a ground handling strike in FLR, not a BA issue, at least it went, the STN rotation was cancelled
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Old 29th Jul 2018, 19:18
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Looks like tonight’s arrival from JMK to LCY is delayed beyond the curfew and likely to be diverted to SEN or STN.

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Old 30th Jul 2018, 07:19
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Originally Posted by TartinTon
FLR is a poor choice of airport. Unfortunately its short runway and susceptibility to inclement weather .
It doesn't really gel, criticising a carrier based at London City, of all places, for operating to an airport with a short runway and liable to weather disruption ...
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