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Old 21st Jun 2020, 19:27
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Originally Posted by TimmyW View Post
As I said, posters on Twitter.

It does seem a very slow restart compared to others.
compared to what? Have jet2 released their restart plans yet?
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Old 21st Jun 2020, 19:38
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Originally Posted by Yeehaw22 View Post
compared to what? Have jet2 released their restart plans yet?
Good friend of mine at Jet2 is still waiting at home, not heard a thing. Of course almost all their crews need 3 Take Off and landings in the sim to get recency, not a lot of time to do that. Ryanair have had their sims and those of CAE across Europe working overtime for tthe last 5 /6 weeks making sure all their pilots are ready.
It's very quiet in the Leeds portacabins
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Old 21st Jun 2020, 20:18
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In regards to aircraft used, I'd imagine from say, September onwards they would use the original aircraft planned as I think a lot of people with prior bookings would be waiting to see what happened without amending anything.
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Old 21st Jun 2020, 20:45
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As far as I see Bfs is still on sale from mid July. They would hardly cancel these at this late stage. I checked Turkey and Greece.
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Old 21st Jun 2020, 22:02
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Originally Posted by TimmyW View Post
Some posters on Twitter suggesting the 5 bases will be until next summer, when TUI will relook at things. Seems a lot of the smaller bases may be closing.
incorrect - the small bases with only one aircraft have commitment from the airline and tour operator - just unlikely to see them open in the short term
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Old 21st Jun 2020, 22:13
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My guess is that there will be a number of holiday makers being driven from there planned departure airport to one of the three airports in use, unless there holiday has been cancelled.
My belief is all TUI has to do is get you to your booked accommodation for the dates booked, how they get you there and back is up to them.
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Old 21st Jun 2020, 22:33
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Originally Posted by Yeehaw22 View Post
compared to what? Have jet2 released their restart plans yet?
Ryanair have a lot of flights to Spain and Greece on offer in July, 2 a week from some islands in Greece from my local at EMA for instance alone, so TUI operating only 3 aircraft across the U.K. is a bit surprising, easyJet have a few options for Greece/Spain and Wizz with their new Greek routes from LTN.

Although they do say by the end of July 19 destinations from 5 airports so nothing to say that wouldn’t be the case from say the second week of ops.

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Old 21st Jun 2020, 22:44
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Originally Posted by valefan16 View Post
Ryanair have a lot of flights to Spain and Greece on offer in July, 2 a week from some islands in Greece from my local at EMA for instance alone, so TUI operating only 3 aircraft across the U.K. is a bit surprising,.
3 aircraft? Its 3 bases.

Its a lot simpler for ryanair don't forget. They provide a flight. The likes of Tui and jet2 have the flights, transfers, hotels, in resort staff, even down to how to provide meals at the all inclusives to organise.

It was always going to be a slow restart to ops. Even more so for the package tour operators.
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Old 21st Jun 2020, 22:51
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Originally Posted by Mr @ Spotty M View Post
My guess is that there will be a number of holiday makers being driven from there planned departure airport to one of the three airports in use, unless there holiday has been cancelled.
My belief is all TUI has to do is get you to your booked accommodation for the dates booked, how they get you there and back is up to them.
I also think this may happen as it would seem silly to cancel existing bookings when they so desperately need that custom. I hope they at least prioritise giving those with existing bookings at other bases the choice to move (or rather, agree to being bussed) to one of the "big 3" bases before they put the flights on sale to the masses without informing said customers who may then find the flights all fully booked.

Obviously it will be inconvenient for both passenger and airline to travel potentially hundreds of miles to an alternative base but if customers are willing then it would seem the best option. If they only operate the flights for LGW/MAN/BHX pax, there will be significant under-utilisation of fleet so by operating more (or larger) flights from these bases including the displaced pax they'd be making more money and keeping everyone a bit happier. However, they will obviously need to ensure they can cover this in terms of staffing (surely they will?).

If they manage to make at least a reasonably good job of that then they'd impress customers and they'd be more likely to book again. Cancelling people's flights/holidays simply because they booked from a smaller base would inevitably leave many with a sour taste (certainly true for myself with a booking around 4 weeks from now).
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Old 21st Jun 2020, 22:56
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It can also be argued that flying by FR or EZY to stay in their own or someone else's flat is much less likely to cause an infection cluster than tui or Jet2 flying customers to an all-inclusive resort with communal facilities.
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Old 21st Jun 2020, 22:57
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Originally Posted by Yeehaw22 View Post
3 aircraft? Its 3 bases.

Its a lot simpler for ryanair don't forget. They provide a flight. The likes of Tui and jet2 have the flights, transfers, hotels, in resort staff, even down to how to provide meals at the all inclusives to organise.

It was always going to be a slow restart to ops. Even more so for the package tour operators.
I think the point was that since so few flights will be operating from each base, it will effectively be like only operating three aircraft.
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Old 22nd Jun 2020, 05:54
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Originally Posted by ROC10 View Post
I think the point was that since so few flights will be operating from each base, it will effectively be like only operating three aircraft.
Works out to start with around 13-14 flights a base so I assume one aircraft doing two a day was how I calculated it based on 44 flights.
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Old 22nd Jun 2020, 07:38
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So it is the case that less operating aircraft means packed aircraft due to consolidation. My family is now grown up but the perceived danger would still stop me booking any holiday abroad this year. Tough choice for those that had already booked. Go or lose your money.
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Old 22nd Jun 2020, 07:47
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As you're in Leicestershire it can't be a long slog to BHX surely?
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Old 22nd Jun 2020, 07:59
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Originally Posted by FQTLSteve View Post
As you're in Leicestershire it can't be a long slog to BHX surely?
We're in W Mids but prefer the 'slog' to EMA rather than the bun fight that is BHX. But likely EMA is not on Ze Leest.😀
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Old 22nd Jun 2020, 08:54
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Originally Posted by Flying Hi View Post
We're in W Mids but prefer the 'slog' to EMA rather than the bun fight that is BHX. But likely EMA is not on Ze Leest.😀
Bun fight? Unless cafes are opened you'll be hard pressed to find any buns!!

Seriously, I really can't see how the unpleasant experience of travelling from the northwest of Birmingham to EMA is less than flying through BHX. By the time you've parked somewhere near Melbourne, and nowhere near the terminal, then socially distanced on a transfer bus lugging 20kg each of "holiday essentials", the comparatively short walk from the BHX onsite carparks to the terminal must be a less stressful experience - but each to their own.
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Old 22nd Jun 2020, 09:08
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Originally Posted by ATNotts View Post
Bun fight? Unless cafes are opened you'll be hard pressed to find any buns!!

Seriously, I really can't see how the unpleasant experience of travelling from the northwest of Birmingham to EMA is less than flying through BHX. By the time you've parked somewhere near Melbourne, and nowhere near the terminal, then socially distanced on a transfer bus lugging 20kg each of "holiday essentials", the comparatively short walk from the BHX onsite carparks to the terminal must be a less stressful experience - but each to their own.
Love EMA its my home airport and grew up falling in love with aviation there at the old aeropark but have to agree it is pretty tight in the departures at EMA and always seems to be building work going on.

Needs a new terminal really to push on.
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Old 22nd Jun 2020, 09:21
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After my recent complaint and worries about flying with SmartLynx, I did get a call with a senior operations manager from Tui Airways and a Customer service manager on Friday they said that they could not tell me then but there was a major update to be announced on Monday morning for Summer 2020 which as obviously now been done.

They both said that in my case Cyprus would be available by end of July and that my flights to Paphos from Birmingham in September they were looking at combining that with the Larnarca service and using a 787 but were unsure which airport the flight would operate into. This does kind of make sense as PFO departs at 14:25 and LCA at 14:35 especially if pax numbers are not that high and it is only about 60-70 miles between the two airports
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Old 22nd Jun 2020, 09:29
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Originally Posted by ATNotts View Post
Bun fight? Unless cafes are opened you'll be hard pressed to find any buns!!

Seriously, I really can't see how the unpleasant experience of travelling from the northwest of Birmingham to EMA is less than flying through BHX. By the time you've parked somewhere near Melbourne, and nowhere near the terminal, then socially distanced on a transfer bus lugging 20kg each of "holiday essentials", the comparatively short walk from the BHX onsite carparks to the terminal must be a less stressful experience - but each to their own.
Sorry for the thread drift but -
Chez Flying Hi to BHX - M54 >M6 (bottleneck) > M6 to BHX via M6/M5 interchange and Spag Junction (slow, often stationary) > pre-warn Meet @ Greet prior to arriving BHX > wait till they turn up!
Time - 1 hour to 1 hour 15.
Chez Flying Hi to EMA - A5 > M6Toll > M69/A69 - EMA meet and greet ON AIRPORT 100 mtrs from Departures door. Car available on return just 50 mtrs from Arrivals exit door.
Time - 1 hour 15 (never been longer even at busy times)
Inside terminal EMA is a much quieter, more relaxed experience IMO.
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Old 22nd Jun 2020, 09:46
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Next summer seems largely unchanged at the moment still.
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