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Isn't a warm, dry climate (like Tenerife’s) preferable for storage over one like the UK’s? If so, that may have been a factor in their decision to leave it there rather than position it back here empty, which I believe they probably could have done (in a short window) had they wanted to.
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Isn't a warm, dry climate (like Tenerife’s) preferable for storage over one like the UK’s? If so, that may have been a factor in their decision to leave it there rather than position it back here empty, which I believe they probably could have done (in a short window) had they wanted to.
I'm aware Icelandair moved some of their MAX's to France last autumn as it became clear the grounding wasn't going to be lifted and being conscious of the damage the Icelandic winter could do to the aircraft. Am I right in thinking Norwegian still have a MAX parked at TFS that became stranded at the same time as the TUI example?
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Isn't a warm, dry climate (like Tenerife’s) preferable for storage over one like the UK’s? If so, that may have been a factor in their decision to leave it there rather than position it back here empty, which I believe they probably could have done (in a short window) had they wanted to.
I am pretty sure both Tui and MAN would not have left five of them blocking up a Taxiway for a year. Coronavirus has probably underlined the fact that there are cheaper places to long term park airframes then major airports.
TUI's MAX's have all grounded been at MAN for over a year now, except the one is still on it's todd at Tenerife.
Not sure where the Norwegian one went from TFS or it maybe still there?
Not sure where the Norwegian one went from TFS or it maybe still there?
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TUI's MAX's have all grounded been at MAN for over a year now, except the one is still on it's todd at Tenerife.
Not sure where the Norwegian one went from TFS or it maybe still there?
Not sure where the Norwegian one went from TFS or it maybe still there?
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EI-FYI was present at TFS until October 15th, then positioned to ILD where it is now stored and has been re-registered as SE-RYI. (I know this is nothing to do with TUI but I'm just providing an answer.)
If I recall correctly they couldn’t move any of them.
I am pretty sure both Tui and MAN would not have left five of them blocking up a Taxiway for a year. Coronavirus has probably underlined the fact that there are cheaper places to long term park airframes then major airports.
I am pretty sure both Tui and MAN would not have left five of them blocking up a Taxiway for a year. Coronavirus has probably underlined the fact that there are cheaper places to long term park airframes then major airports.
To put in perspective, a lot of places charge more per day in the U.K. than it would for 2-3 months in other locations, especially in the US.
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Dannyboy39, the issue was not the AD but the position of various countries not allowing overflights of the Max.
My guess TUI decided to give up on trying to get authority permission and stick with a better climate than sunny Manchester.
My guess TUI decided to give up on trying to get authority permission and stick with a better climate than sunny Manchester.
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The issue with the Max in TFS is that the UK CAA invoked the Air Navigation Order prohibiting all flights by UK registered aircraft. EASA allowed a number of empty maintenance positioning flights
I can understand why the CAA might have wanted all 737 Max flights to stop - but surely if they have the power to forbid flights, they must (eventually) have the power to lift the prohibition, and also (in the interim) to have the power to grant exceptions...
I assume TUI made some sort of behind-the-scenes appeal to the CAA to fly it to somewhere for long term storage that is less remote and away from the sea with 2 very senior pilots flying under very specific conditions. Why would the CAA not relent in this specific instance ?
I assume TUI made some sort of behind-the-scenes appeal to the CAA to fly it to somewhere for long term storage that is less remote and away from the sea with 2 very senior pilots flying under very specific conditions. Why would the CAA not relent in this specific instance ?
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Do we know how old these Ex Fly Dubai aircraft are ? i presume that they are early models so without the Sky cabin and are they having the Scimitar winglets being added to save on fuel . I just hope for Tui that these replacement aircraft are going to be reliable once the season starts following Covid 19 as the last thing they need is lots of EU261 claims and sub charter costs and extra bed nights.
I know last year when Tui had an Olympus A321 based at BHX go tech for 3 days and they could not get a replacement aircraft it was costing them over 300k a day in EU claims and hotel costs.
I know last year when Tui had an Olympus A321 based at BHX go tech for 3 days and they could not get a replacement aircraft it was costing them over 300k a day in EU claims and hotel costs.
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Do we know how old these Ex Fly Dubai aircraft are ? i presume that they are early models so without the Sky cabin and are they having the Scimitar winglets being added to save on fuel . I just hope for Tui that these replacement aircraft are going to be reliable once the season starts following Covid 19 as the last thing they need is lots of EU261 claims and sub charter costs and extra bed nights.
I know last year when Tui had an Olympus A321 based at BHX go tech for 3 days and they could not get a replacement aircraft it was costing them over 300k a day in EU claims and hotel costs.
I know last year when Tui had an Olympus A321 based at BHX go tech for 3 days and they could not get a replacement aircraft it was costing them over 300k a day in EU claims and hotel costs.
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I don’t believe any of the acquisitions have the sky interior and some are older than the 738s that have recently been withdrawn. The thing is, it’s possible they would’ve been able to get their hands on younger frames post-COVID, although this could not have been foreseen and they are less likely to need the extra capacity now anyway. We may not see 757/767s flying at all this summer...
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TUI have furloughed most of their Staff, most Staff arent set up to Work from Home (phone lines or laptops) so how are they meant to sit in a call centre when told to stay at home? You will get your money back one way or another but understand that if people cant go to work how are they meant to answer phones or call you?
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