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With respect my pal skipper for TOM at BRS on 757/767 fleet - they (757) were all due to have been history long before 2021 - 757 retirements were planned around 4 or 5 years ago.
The MAX debacle changed the plans
The MAX debacle changed the plans
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The last of the 757s BC/D/E/F have been planned for years to exit spring 21. This hasn't changed. The short term extensions of EV/BG and possibly some more short term extensions of the rest are the only changes to the 757 exit plans as a consequence of the max issues. People need to get their facts right.
I'm pretty sure they'd be more interested in keeping hold of the older 738s that have started to be Wfu. Although they might not be so keen with the pickle fork issues.
I'm pretty sure they'd be more interested in keeping hold of the older 738s that have started to be Wfu. Although they might not be so keen with the pickle fork issues.
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The Max might have slowed down the plans, but it can’t be the ultimate reason for something that happened years before it. Not unless someone had a fully functioning crystal ball.
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But what you’ve put above doesn’t make sense? If the retirements were planned 4 or 5 years ago, how can the Max issues which happened this year be the reason the 75’s are still here?
The Max might have slowed down the plans, but it can’t be the ultimate reason for something that happened years before it. Not unless someone had a fully functioning crystal ball.
Perhaps the 'intel' from the employee at BRS was in fact that the 757 was due to be gone from that particular base long ago and this has been misinterpreted somewhere? Seems the only logical explanation.
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The last of the 757s BC/D/E/F have been planned for years to exit spring 21. This hasn't changed. The short term extensions of EV/BG and possibly some more short term extensions of the rest are the only changes to the 757 exit plans as a consequence of the max issues. People need to get their facts right.
I'm pretty sure they'd be more interested in keeping hold of the older 738s that have started to be Wfu. Although they might not be so keen with the pickle fork issues.
I'm pretty sure they'd be more interested in keeping hold of the older 738s that have started to be Wfu. Although they might not be so keen with the pickle fork issues.
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Your contact in Bristol may have only meant Bristol with regards to the B757.
Base Pilots do not always fully know what the complete plans are with regards to fleets.
It is usually the engineering division which has better knowledge in that respect, as they have to plan well ahead to be ready for each aircraft's disposal.
End of lease work needs to be planned well ahead to get maintenance slots for end of lease checks, any engine shop visits and engine changes.
I was offered a job at TUI back in January well before the max issues, this was only a 2 year contract, because the B757s were leaving in the spring of 2021.
Your contact in Bristol may have only meant Bristol with regards to the B757.
Base Pilots do not always fully know what the complete plans are with regards to fleets.
It is usually the engineering division which has better knowledge in that respect, as they have to plan well ahead to be ready for each aircraft's disposal.
End of lease work needs to be planned well ahead to get maintenance slots for end of lease checks, any engine shop visits and engine changes.
I was offered a job at TUI back in January well before the max issues, this was only a 2 year contract, because the B757s were leaving in the spring of 2021.
''Perhaps the 'intel' from the employee at BRS was in fact that the 757 was due to be gone from that particular base long ago and this has been misinterpreted somewhere? Seems the only logical explanation.''
Yes you are all correct - sorry for confusions - However he did say that the 757 retirement planning (which was commenced as he said some years ago) meant the 757 was to go from BRS long before 2021 and the pilots would all go to the 737 some time ago -
Just spoke to him last night and he still did think that originally there were no plans to keep them at any base until 2021.
We assume all the plans changed Spotty M.
Thanks for your input - One thing is for sure we will all lament when the 757's go for good - I loved working on this aeroplane - Go anywhere and do anything (almost)
Best R
Yes you are all correct - sorry for confusions - However he did say that the 757 retirement planning (which was commenced as he said some years ago) meant the 757 was to go from BRS long before 2021 and the pilots would all go to the 737 some time ago -
Just spoke to him last night and he still did think that originally there were no plans to keep them at any base until 2021.
We assume all the plans changed Spotty M.
Thanks for your input - One thing is for sure we will all lament when the 757's go for good - I loved working on this aeroplane - Go anywhere and do anything (almost)
Best R
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TUI is going to have a very complicated year ahead of them because of the Max issue.
Apart from not knowing when they can get them back in the sky, there is another major problem that might rear its ugly head.
The WTO is due to give its ruling on the Boeing subsidy issues and the Max might get caught up in it, just like the Airbus A320FAM has with US imports.
If that happens this will make a massive dent in the balance sheet.
Apart from not knowing when they can get them back in the sky, there is another major problem that might rear its ugly head.
The WTO is due to give its ruling on the Boeing subsidy issues and the Max might get caught up in it, just like the Airbus A320FAM has with US imports.
If that happens this will make a massive dent in the balance sheet.
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What exactly would you prefer the thread discussed? Please feel free to contribute some more exciting information. Otherwise, no one is forcing you to read the thread.
Tbe last couple of days seems to have descended into a squabble about who knew what when about when the 757's were leaving - guess what plans change. Being old enough to remember when the new 757 was being talked about as a derivative of the 727, they're just another of the ubiquitous twin jets...
I was told years ago by somebody in fleet planning for Britannia that selling the seats was the hard part. If they do, they'll always find somebody to operate the flights - doubt things have changed much.
I was told years ago by somebody in fleet planning for Britannia that selling the seats was the hard part. If they do, they'll always find somebody to operate the flights - doubt things have changed much.
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Further delays to the B737 MAX return to service:-
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-50817124
More problems for TUI?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-50817124
More problems for TUI?
Further delays to the B737 MAX return to service:-
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-50817124
More problems for TUI?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-50817124
More problems for TUI?
Well certainly one (problem) that was no doubt not unexpected by TUI, who will be working hard to cover their S20 flying...
For the ACMI airlines this means lucrative business. (sad reasons though)
What this may mean for their (TUI) massive expansion plans and also for W20/21 I don't know.
If the MAX production line closes as mentioned, then TUI's MAX -10 fleet will not be built, nor delivered next year which again may see even further extension plans to 757 operations if that is at all possible.
Not sure if any ex TOM 767's are available from TUI or Neos in Europe/Nordic but they could well be holding onto them.
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