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Old 2nd Nov 2018, 15:47
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Originally Posted by Plane.Silly

Also noted is the Summer 2020 programme due to go on sale on Nov 8th, 4 Months earlier than usual.

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Wont it all be a bit pointless in the event of a No Deal Brexit if TUI et al can't actually fly to them?
Or do they know summat we don't?
2020 could be the Year of The Staycation.
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Wont it all be a bit pointless in the event of a No Deal Brexit if TUI et al can't actually fly to them?
Or do they know summat we don't?
2020 could be the Year of The Staycation.
They know just how scaremongering / negative the media are being and know, as do many others, of a more realistic reality luckily.
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Old 2nd Nov 2018, 16:53
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Originally Posted by Cazza_fly
They know just how scaremongering / negative the media are being and know, as do many others, of a more realistic reality luckily.
"Luckily" ≠ 'hopefully'?? What kind of basis for decision making is that?

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Old 3rd Nov 2018, 08:01
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Do you honestly think that no deal on avaition is a reality? no good for anybody
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Originally Posted by chaps1954
Do you honestly think that no deal on avaition is a reality? no good for anybody
No I dont actually but i do wish a bit of common sense would prevail.
IF it did happen , EU will be well aware that these things work both ways. So in the end an "arrangement" will be agreed.
I just wish both sides would grow up and stop all this Brinkmanship - or should that be Brinkpersonship in this modern androgenous world.
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Old 3rd Nov 2018, 10:55
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TUI UK WILL continue to fly outside of the EU whether deal or no including to the Caribbean Mexico and US .

They WILL continue to fly from the UK to the EU as well however their ownership structure may need modifying .

Its highly likely in the event of no deal and aircraft certification problems; This is a Genuine risk we will will see some migration of aircraft registrations to Germany Scandinavia and or Belgium to over come issues in the short term.

TUI Group have options here.

As an airline within tour group operating charters is far less of a problem for TUI than many.

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Old 3rd Nov 2018, 13:44
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Originally Posted by Cazza_fly
They know just how scaremongering / negative the media are being and know, as do many others, of a more realistic reality luckily.
You're wrong. Nobody, least of all the airlines, have any idea what's going to happen. It could all end very badly, hopefully it won't, but to dismiss everything as scaremongering is disingenuous.
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Old 4th Nov 2018, 06:40
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Originally Posted by sixchannel
Wont it all be a bit pointless in the event of a No Deal Brexit if TUI et al can't actually fly to them?
Or do they know summat we don't?
2020 could be the Year of The Staycation.
interesting article in the times yesterday that c5million people will stay at home next year rather than go abroad in the event of a hard Brexit. amongst other things a plunging exchange rate will make it difficult for
Brit’s to afford it.

on the other hand the Thomas cook share price “surged” on Friday on the hope of a soft Brexit.

as usually loads of contradiction about what will actually happen!





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Old 4th Nov 2018, 09:51
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Oh for H.G.Well's Time Machine to pop forward to 30th March 2019 and see whats actually happening.
We are on holiday in May, no matter what happens, but we have put all thoughts of fly away holidays for later in the year on hold.
If its 'business as usual' on April 1st (good day for it) there'll be a massive internet stampede to get holidays booked.
If its a mess, then Llandudno is going to be busy in 2019. 😀
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Old 5th Nov 2018, 11:37
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NWI-TFS

Are TUI having a Tenerife based crew this winter
notice that the NWI-TFS is now only once a week on a Thursday
what base will operate the once a week flight


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Old 5th Nov 2018, 11:57
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Originally Posted by sparkie320
Are TUI having a Tenerife based crew this winter
notice that the NWI-TFS is now only once a week on a Thursday
what base will operate the once a week flight


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It's possible that Norwegian could operate it of its a TFS based aircraft.
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Old 5th Nov 2018, 12:15
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Flight originates from Norwich goes out at 10 something in the morning then returns to Norwich at 8 in the evening I believe
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Originally Posted by NickBarnes
Flight originates from Norwich goes out at 10 something in the morning then returns to Norwich at 8 in the evening I believe
Last week the 737 came in from Stansted did the NWI-TFS-NWI run then went off to Birmingham
before they used a TFS based 737 just wondered what plan this year is
as seems lot of empty movement flights

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Old 5th Nov 2018, 12:24
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Ah then I presume that's what they have planned to fly the aircraft in from Stansted, but agree that's a lots of empty flights for it this winter even if it is a short hop from Stansted
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I doubt it will come from STN every week, it just so happened that they had their second summer aircraft which was due to leave STN anyway. I’d imagaine it will come from MAN/BHX/LGW in future unless the TFS base is opening soon. I asked the same question on here recently but it would appear there is no TFS base this year.

The ABZ flight on Sunday was operated by G-FDZR which positioned up from EDI on Saturday and is still there now whilst G-TAWL (coincidentally the one that operated STN-NWI-TFS-NWI-BHX) has positioned up from BHX to EDI for tomorrow’s TFS flight.

I’m not sure if LBA, HUY or any others will be served this year.
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Old 6th Nov 2018, 09:44
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BY4226 Divert.

Currently, BY4226 LGW - TFS G-TAWB circling and descending over western Portugal having declared a 'general emergency' (FR24).
Headed for Lisbon.
update - landed c10.53 uk time and now parked on the south side concrete hardstandings.

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Currently, BY4226 LGW - TFS G-TAWB circling and descending over western Portugal having declared a 'general emergency' (FR24).
Headed for Lisbon.
medical emergency or some boozed up slags/pikeys kicking off again?
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Old 7th Nov 2018, 14:54
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Fleet plans:
757 Plans
Sum18 14
Win18/19 13
Sum19 10
Win19/20 9
Sum20 5
Win20/21 3
Sum 21 3
Win21/22 0

767 Plans
Sum18 4
Win18/19 4
Sum 19 4
Win19/20 4
Sum20 4
Win20/21 4
Sum 21 4
Win21/22 3
Sum22 2
Win 22/23 2
Sum 23 2
Win 23/24 1
Sum24 0
757s will concentrate in BHX/MAN/LGW and LTN for maintenance ease. So all 757s gone by Winter 2021.
Winter 18/19 2 767s will operate Mid Haul/Long Haul from the Nordic region, from Summer 19, the 767s will operate short haul/mid haul only though may end up operating long haul to support the Dubai cruise ships.

2 more 787-9s arrive in autumn 2019 (TUIN/TUIO)
Summer 19 will see all UK 787s based in the UK with 1 standby aircraft, 2 on shorthaul 1 on Mixed SH/LH and 8 UK longhaul operations The two additional -9s bring the UK fleet to 14 airplanes with a further expanded winter 2019 longhaul operation.

The Dutch and Belgian 787s remain with their airlines.
737-MAX start to arrive next month, and will start to replace the 757s, particularly BRS and GLA by summer 19

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So Bristol won't have any 757s for Summer 2019?
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Will GLA or BRS have any 757s next summer? If not, does anyone know what aircraft these bases will have?

When you say all 787s will be based in the UK, does that mean that 787s currently in other TUI airlines will transfer to TOM?
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