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Old 28th Nov 2019, 08:22
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I'd say it's just a matter of time... both are routes that work well from GLA, so should do equally well from EDI.

However, both airlines are struggling for capacity with the MAX still being grounded, so I doubt there'll be any announcements until a timescale for that returning to the air is announced.
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Old 28th Nov 2019, 09:29
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I have a question re EDI stand planning. I frequently use EZY from/to LGW and the flights frequently use gates 2/3/4. Yesterday afternoon the LGW was on gate 3 and the BRS on gate 2. Not only does this lead to loads of congestion as the arriving pax try to push past the pax queuing for departure (and yesterday the LGW and BRS queues got totally mixed up with each other) but it means that arriving pax have to walk the whole length of the departure lounge to get to domestic arrivals. Would it not make more sense to allocate gates nearer to domestic arrivals for these flights? It was not exactly busy yesterday afternoon - plenty of contact stands available. One other point re the EDI terminal - a nasty pinch point has been created between Weatherspoons and Burger King with pax walking in both directions causing congestion. I'm surprised the fire service allows it.
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Old 28th Nov 2019, 09:39
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Tui add new 1x weekly Sharm El Sheikh starting 2nd November 2020. Great news and is the first African route in a while.
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Old 28th Nov 2019, 10:49
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Sharm-el-Sheik isn't in Africa. Wrong side of the Suez canal.
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Old 28th Nov 2019, 11:55
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Originally Posted by inOban View Post
Sharm-el-Sheik isn't in Africa. Wrong side of the Suez canal.
Accoding to the internet of things:

”Although Egypt sits in the north of the Africancontinent it is considered by many to be a Middle Eastern country, partly because the main spoken language there is Egyptian Arabic, the main religion is Islam and it is a member of the Arab League.”

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Old 28th Nov 2019, 12:05
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Originally Posted by Plane mad 134 View Post
Tui add new 1x weekly Sharm El Sheikh starting 2nd November 2020. Great news and is the first African route in a while.
Positive news, I wonder what frame they will use for this as the return leg is quoted as 6hrs 25 mins. Out with a 738’s flight range? Possibly a 757 (doubt it would be 767 or Dreamliner)
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Old 28th Nov 2019, 12:12
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Precisely. Most of Egypt is geographically in Africa, including Hurghada, even though the population is Arabic. But AFAIK, the geographical boundary between Africa and Asia is the Canal, so the Sinai is in Asia.

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Old 28th Nov 2019, 13:49
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Originally Posted by Sk1schoolsam View Post


Positive news, I wonder what frame they will use for this as the return leg is quoted as 6hrs 25 mins. Out with a 738’s flight range? Possibly a 757 (doubt it would be 767 or Dreamliner)
They used the 738 on this route before so it is capable. The MAX is also planned to be based at EDI upon its return so it will likely be that, definitely not a 757.
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Old 28th Nov 2019, 18:46
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I have feeling Jet2 to Lisbon will be announced next week, watch this space.
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Old 28th Nov 2019, 19:19
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That would seem unlikely since the route is already served by both EZY and FR
They've dropped out of Vienna and will soon drop Budapest where there is LCC competition.
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Old 28th Nov 2019, 19:28
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Where's this rumour coming from...?
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Old 28th Nov 2019, 21:18
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Where's this rumour coming from...?
Probably his head
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Old 28th Nov 2019, 21:24
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No substance to that one at all.
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Old 28th Nov 2019, 21:37
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Originally Posted by Plane mad 134 View Post
watch this space.
We are watching this space very closely. Another 'anonymous source' or from the much maligned Slot Allocations? Plain Mad indeed.
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Old 28th Nov 2019, 21:44
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Originally Posted by CabinCrewe View Post

We are watching this space very closely. Another 'anonymous source' or from the much maligned Slot Allocations? Plain Mad indeed.
Make fun all you want, Im just saying its not from the slot allocations. And yes watch this space.
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Old 28th Nov 2019, 22:38
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Originally Posted by ROC10 View Post


They used the 738 on this route before so it is capable. The MAX is also planned to be based at EDI upon its return so it will likely be that, definitely not a 757.
Why not??

I would be a bit concerned if they were relying on the MAX being back in service to deliver this route. Who knows if or when that will happen.

Would they not have to fly a 738 light to get that range like Norwegian had to do early doors on their TA routes? just curious.
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Old 28th Nov 2019, 23:02
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Originally Posted by Sk1schoolsam View Post


Why not??

I would be a bit concerned if they were relying on the MAX being back in service to deliver this route. Who knows if or when that will happen.

Would they not have to fly a 738 light to get that range like Norwegian had to do early doors on their TA routes? just curious.
Because it's not a 757 base, because most if not all the 757s are going by winter 20 and if the max isn't back flying by November 2020 then Tui will have far bigger issues to solve than payload restricting a 738 to sharm. Although am pretty sure the 738 has the legs for sharm with full load.
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Old 28th Nov 2019, 23:41
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Originally Posted by Sk1schoolsam View Post


Why not??

I would be a bit concerned if they were relying on the MAX being back in service to deliver this route. Who knows if or when that will happen.

Would they not have to fly a 738 light to get that range like Norwegian had to do early doors on their TA routes? just curious.
They aren’t going to bring a 757 into EDI for one flight (not a 757 base so no crews etc), especially as most are planned to be gone by then and the few that remain will be tied up at LGW/MAN/BHX. Furthermore, having significantly more seats, the 757 will be even harder to fill in the winter months and this aircraft is less economical (especially compared to the MAX), especially if not full.

Additionally, as I already mentioned, the 738 was used on this route prior to it’s suspension so clearly it is capable. The 738 currently manages the likes of MAN-RMF and BRS-SID on a weekly bases. Even though it remains uncertain, it is likely that the MAX will be back in service by November 2020.
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Old 29th Nov 2019, 09:34
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I think you can assume that if the Max isn't back in service by Nov 2020 then it never will be. Any chance someone answering my EDI stand planning question above? I know its boring discussing how an airport actually runs and serves its customers as opposed to what new spotting opportunities there might be.
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Old 29th Nov 2019, 10:16
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Originally Posted by willy wombat View Post
I have a question re EDI stand planning. I frequently use EZY from/to LGW and the flights frequently use gates 2/3/4. Yesterday afternoon the LGW was on gate 3 and the BRS on gate 2. Not only does this lead to loads of congestion as the arriving pax try to push past the pax queuing for departure (and yesterday the LGW and BRS queues got totally mixed up with each other) but it means that arriving pax have to walk the whole length of the departure lounge to get to domestic arrivals. Would it not make more sense to allocate gates nearer to domestic arrivals for these flights? It was not exactly busy yesterday afternoon - plenty of contact stands available. One other point re the EDI terminal - a nasty pinch point has been created between Weatherspoons and Burger King with pax walking in both directions causing congestion. I'm surprised the fire service allows it.
The stand layout is subpar even before you get to the allocation. There was a time when Midland had Gate 1, BA on 2 or 3 with AirUK using 4 when the Terminal was fit for the level of traffic it handled. Nowadays BA's most-favoured-airline status sees you dropped off at Cargo and bussed if you get the last Shuttle from LHR! Some of the old domestic gates now grant access to the UK Border and so can't be used to board until an arriving aircraft has cleared, (the old glass doors approach BAA used to have at LGW and still has at LHR Pier 7) It *may* be the case your EZY domestic departure had arrived on an international so was allocated those gates.
If they use the East Pier, it's a bus to International arrivals which adds to cost and inconvenience.

BTW the option exists to fly a B757 on a W pattern into EDI, adds to costs but you know what, it happens a lot.
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