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Old 28th Jul 2020, 19:17
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Originally Posted by VickersVicount View Post
Odd that EDI only route to go down from widebody 763 to 738. Maybe the only destination within range. DY did it no bother. Suppose if having to be transferred to Mainline, even though a small narrowbody, it should have a variation of AC business class which might be a plus if any of the usual leisure pax fancy it.
Not that odd actually, Air Canada in the last few weeks filed aircraft changes for Montreal Dublin service during summer 2021 season, which sees the airline schedules Boeing 737 MAX 8 aircraft service, instead of Boeing 787-8.

Routes seem to be amended bit by bit so maybe more aircraft downgrades
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Old 28th Jul 2020, 19:42
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Not a surprise, but I see Delta have pushed back their restart to 1st October and United are now 25th October. Beginning to think it might a bigger surprise if they even make those dates.
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Old 28th Jul 2020, 21:15
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Emirates now showing October for 1st flight from Edi
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Old 29th Jul 2020, 15:20
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EI have considerably reduced flights to Dublin in Sept & early October - one flight per day in most instances.
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Old 29th Jul 2020, 17:46
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I wonder how many were on today's Qatar flight?
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Old 29th Jul 2020, 21:12
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I wonder how many were on today's Qatar flight?

41 pax were booked on it
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Old 29th Jul 2020, 21:27
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Thanks. No wonder they've been culling flights.
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Old 29th Jul 2020, 21:38
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Inbound was into triple figures...? Although not exactly great either.

Not sure how much cargo they're carrying just now.
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Old 29th Jul 2020, 22:24
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Originally Posted by GoEDI View Post
Inbound was into triple figures...? Although not exactly great either.

Not sure how much cargo they're carrying just now.
Cargo would make the difference. I flew out of Tokyo on a beautiful Airbus 351 with only 8 passengers but it still ran daily as the were filling the belly with cargo so made the flight economical with or without passengers. I dont know how much we import/export through Qatar but perhaps there is enough to sustain a few flights per week even with very soft passenger numbers.
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Old 30th Jul 2020, 07:22
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Originally Posted by tictack67 View Post
Great to see Turkish Airlines Istanbul upgraded to A321 a couple of times a week, others on B737
But frequency cut to only 3 per week now...,😞
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Old 30th Jul 2020, 07:57
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Originally Posted by Sk1schoolsam View Post
But frequency cut to only 3 per week now...,😞
Yes, I suppose August is the anonomly the for Edinburgh, where likely huge groups bookings cancelled coming to Edinburgh for the Fringe, international, book TV and festivals and the tattoo all being cancelled.

Winter timetable showing daily flight with A321 on morning flight and B737-900 on evening flight with the occasional A320.

It's all up in the air of course and a worrying time for all airports in the UK, but good to see some confidence from airlines. Considering BA A have moved entire LGW shorthaul back to 7th Novemberr
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Old 30th Jul 2020, 08:13
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Airlines have been posting schedules on the basis of anticipated demand. As flight time approaches it becomes clear that actual demand on longhaul routes is far less.
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Old 30th Jul 2020, 08:18
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Originally Posted by Sk1schoolsam View Post
Cargo would make the difference. I flew out of Tokyo on a beautiful Airbus 351 with only 8 passengers but it still ran daily as the were filling the belly with cargo so made the flight economical.
How do you know it was economical and not running at a loss?
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Old 30th Jul 2020, 08:46
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Originally Posted by CabinCrewe View Post
How do you know it was economical and not running at a loss?
The pandemic has resulted in cargo rates going through the roof; I know that because Mrs ATN works for a global logistics business (not an integrator) and finding space has been an issue, and contract rates gone out of the window. Cargo is normally the icing on the cake on a passenger operation, but in these unusual times it may well have made the difference between profit and thumping great loss when long haul passenger traffic has largely evaporated.
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Old 30th Jul 2020, 09:46
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Originally Posted by CabinCrewe View Post
How do you know it was economical and not running at a loss?
Long chat with board cabin crew who were telling me about the full loads of cargo each night but few passengers.
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Old 31st Jul 2020, 02:27
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Originally Posted by Plane mad 134 View Post
Courtesy of Airlineroute:

Air Canada Rouge replacement.
Toronto Edinburgh eff 04JUN21 737 MAX 8 replacing rouge 767, 4 weekly.

Just checked Skyscanner, it will be under a new callsign of AC807, Departing at the same time as the 763 would have.
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Old 31st Jul 2020, 19:59
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It's being reported that EDI is to cut 250 jobs due to the downturn in traffic caused by Covid-19.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...-fife-53609665
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Old 31st Jul 2020, 21:30
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Re AC807. I might be wrong but from my spotting days in the 1960s and early 70s I’m sure AC used to use the 80* series for the Prestwick Canada flights - AC 803 and 805 seem very familiar.
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Old 31st Jul 2020, 21:59
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Originally Posted by willy wombat View Post
Re AC807. I might be wrong but from my spotting days in the 1960s and early 70s Im sure AC used to use the 80* series for the Prestwick Canada flights - AC 803 and 805 seem very familiar.
AC 813 CPH/PIK - YYZ on my first AC trip May 74. AC823 the regular number on LHR/PIK - YQX/YHZ into the 70s. Also remember a trip on AC852 YVR/YEG - PIK/LHR in Jun 78, op by 747.

To bring things back to the EDI thread, until around 1977 EDI Pax could travel via PIK connecting on to AC flights, as well as BAs own schedules by use of the BOAC/BA 'feeder' Viscount service.
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Old 2nd Aug 2020, 11:25
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Originally Posted by Sk1schoolsam View Post
Long chat with board cabin crew who were telling me about the full loads of cargo each night but few passengers.
Full loads may not equte to profit, but may well trim losses.

I doubt there are many passenger airlines turning a profit currently.
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