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Old 15th Jul 2018, 18:33
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What idiot has messed about with the LCY website flight timetable pages yet again.

Used to be a useful enquiry page that showed straightforwardly in one or two clicks the complete timetable to the various destinations for the week. Now it has been rewritten I think twice this year, and each time made less useful and more tedious to work through. Do they give out the design of the web pages to the local secondary school third year "B stream" as an IT project ?

What can be difficult that, when you click on Timetables, it shows you the Timetable. Not some hack (even that badly done) of a booking engine desperate to get you to book for a given flight as soon as you indicate what you want to look at.. Everything now done in huge font = less info on the screen.
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Old 17th Jul 2018, 01:12
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Lithuanian Govt wants a route to London City and seems prepared to pay for it
https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/n...ops-via-tender
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Old 18th Jul 2018, 07:31
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I note that LCY-DUS operates just twice daily on fridays, with the Eastern E70 used on the route departing DUS at 0900 am instead of 0645 and no afternoon flight. Has it always been like that and is the Eastern E70 deployed on another route on Friday mornings - or does it just sit idle on the ground at LCY for 5 1/2 hours? ?

I am aware of the fact that Friday is the slowest weekday at LCY, but given Flybe's full schedule on the route on Fridays the schedule looks not very competitive. The later morning departure is of little use for day travel inbound from DUS and useless for any DUS bound business travel from LCY (first departure at 1440).

Lithuanian Govt wants a route to London City and seems prepared to pay for it
The article strongly hints at LOT and its new E90 operation built up for LCY ops. Wasn't there some discussion that the E90 cannot operate to destinations further away than WAW and BUD without taking a hit load-wise? VNO would be the same distance as AGP and GRX - are these operated by BACF with the E70 or can the E90 take a full load out of LCY to destinations 1000+ miles away?(although, thinking about it, the Greek destinations served by BACF are much further away - maybe the low capacity of BACF E90s helps here?)

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Old 18th Jul 2018, 08:28
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There are few business meetings on Fridays. The afternoon flight suits people returning home for the weekend. It's the same from EDI. There are only two early flights to LCY on Fridays, instead of three, which releases one a/c for the flight to Palma.
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Old 18th Jul 2018, 12:39
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I don't see Friday as a quiet day for LCY. THe timetable is different from Monday - Friday, with many more leisure destinations, but you don't find planes parked up for hours doing nothing.
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Old 18th Jul 2018, 14:36
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Originally Posted by ELondonPax View Post
I don't see Friday as a quiet day for LCY. THe timetable is different from Monday - Friday, with many more leisure destinations, but you don't find planes parked up for hours doing nothing.
To put it like Donald Trump - what I really meant to say was that Friday is the slowest day as far as the traditional business routes (like DUS) are concerned, hence the expansion of BACF into all those leisure routes on fridays (and saturdays and sundays).

Economics of use of the Eastern E70 may be different, by the way, depending on the lease arrangement between BACF and Eastern.
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Old 18th Jul 2018, 17:55
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[QUOTE=virginblue;10199363]I note that LCY-DUS operates just twice daily on fridays, with the Eastern E70 used on the route departing DUS at 0900 am instead of 0645 and no afternoon flight. Has it always been like that and is the Eastern E70 deployed on another route on Friday mornings - or does it just sit idle on the ground at LCY for 5 1/2 hours? ?

virgin blue, to answer your question, the Eastern E170 does not sit on the ground for hours. It normally operates the BACF scheduled LCY - Bergerac return which operates every Friday morning.
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Old 28th Aug 2018, 10:41
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Cityjet will now operate the LCY-DUB route for Aer Lingus from 28th Oct.

https://www.aerlingus.com/travel-inf...-city-airport/
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Old 29th Aug 2018, 09:19
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BA adding four E190s and launching Rome plus more routes: British Airways - MORE ROUTES AND MORE AIRCRAFT FOR LONDON CITY
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Old 29th Aug 2018, 21:12
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Skywork has gone bust, so arrividerci to the Berne route.

Source (in German): https://www.bernerzeitung.ch/region/...story/25828087
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Old 29th Aug 2018, 21:13
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Skywork has gone bust, so arrividerci to the Berne route. Official information on he Swiss' CAA website.

Source (in German): https://www.bernerzeitung.ch/region/...story/25828087
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Old 30th Aug 2018, 08:17
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With Skywork gone and VLM Airlines apparently on life support, I am wondering what the future holds for those two, longstanding routes to BRN and ANR. They are rather thin with 50.000 or less annual pax. For BACF, they would be odd destinations as the airports have no IAG presence at all, so I was wondering if BE could be tempted to give them a go. Alternatively, I coul see them moving up the road to SEN to be served by Stobart. The existing ANR-service could be ramped up, although BRN is more tricky with the destination being a bit too far away for an ATR and too small a market for an E95
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Old 30th Aug 2018, 08:43
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BA could surely use the smaller Embraer, this route could be quite niche for them...
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Old 30th Aug 2018, 08:52
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I am wondering if BA ever looked at BSL which probably would mean more business pax than BRN (some large corporations based there). If I am not mistaken, BRN is more admin which usually means less air travel.
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Old 31st Aug 2018, 20:18
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Originally Posted by virginblue View Post
With Skywork gone and VLM Airlines apparently on life support, I am wondering what the future holds for those two, longstanding routes to BRN and ANR. They are rather thin with 50.000 or less annual pax.
Well, that was quick. VLM has gone bust and after BRN with ARN yet another destination lost.
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Old 31st Aug 2018, 20:25
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While neither VLM nor SkyWork were particularly large carriers at City, it's not a good thing for the airport or passengers if the remaining airlines increase their dominance. Few eggs in one basket, etc...
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Old 31st Aug 2018, 21:28
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Originally Posted by davidjohnson6 View Post
While neither VLM nor SkyWork were particularly large carriers at City,
Just to correct, maybe not this year but in the early 2000s VLM were the largest carrier at LCY, operating to a whole span of places. They had about 8 a day to Manchester alone.

Shame. Their Fokker 50s coming in and out were the last connection with the old Dermot Desmond days of LCY expansion.
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Old 31st Aug 2018, 21:44
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Originally Posted by WHBM View Post
Just to correct, maybe not this year but in the early 2000s VLM were the largest carrier at LCY, operating to a whole span of places. They had about 8 a day to Manchester alone.

Shame. Their Fokker 50s coming in and out were the last connection with the old Dermot Desmond days of LCY expansion.
They were good times. 12 flights a day to AMS and that was when VLM had 18 Fokker 50s. They also drafted in 2 Fokker 50s from Denim Air to operate some flights, it was that busy.
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Old 31st Aug 2018, 22:12
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Originally Posted by davidjohnson6 View Post
While neither VLM nor SkyWork were particularly large carriers at City, it's not a good thing for the airport or passengers if the remaining airlines increase their dominance. Few eggs in one basket, etc...
They have done a bit better in recent times to increase the spread of operators with Flybe, TAP, Aer Lingus, the return of KLM and LOT starting next year.
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Old 1st Sep 2018, 20:11
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What next for London City to Antwerp? Perhaps a switch to FlyBe?
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