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How DARE those little upstarts step outside of their own wee playground!
Look, Loganair are one of the few turboprop operators left in play and they picked up IOM-LCY when BA dropped it. They also moved it to LHR when LCY was closed, flying out of T5 before the BA flight nos were dropped. Now with IOM govt support they are looking to move it back to LHR for reasons of connecting IOM to the wider world. Isn't that a GOOD THING?
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"so called Scotland's Airline"
How DARE those little upstarts step outside of their own wee playground!
Look, Loganair are one of the few turboprop operators left in play and they picked up IOM-LCY when BA dropped it. They also moved it to LHR when LCY was closed, flying out of T5 before the BA flight nos were dropped. Now with IOM govt support they are looking to move it back to LHR for reasons of connecting IOM to the wider world. Isn't that a GOOD THING?
How DARE those little upstarts step outside of their own wee playground!
Look, Loganair are one of the few turboprop operators left in play and they picked up IOM-LCY when BA dropped it. They also moved it to LHR when LCY was closed, flying out of T5 before the BA flight nos were dropped. Now with IOM govt support they are looking to move it back to LHR for reasons of connecting IOM to the wider world. Isn't that a GOOD THING?
The Government went out to the market and asked all the airlines to come up with a proposal for operating London routes and Loganair's was the most aggresive.
But to your points, BA moved the flights to LHR on their own accord as City was closing. I'm not sure it's to do with connecting people to the world, Loganair doesn't really have any agreements to facilitate that, it's more of a vanity thing for all those involved. The Isle of Man Government are having to commit substantial amounts to this new flight.
Yes it is a good thing and the agreement is to run until the end of the border situation / COVID easing - so probably until May time - but I'm not convinced the costs of going to Heathrow are appropriate to be honest when the City loads are so dire.
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Loganair does have quite a few arrangements to connect passengers on to other airlines. Emirates, BA and KLM are three I can think of straight away and I'm sure there are others.
The current LCY service has a BA codeshare on it as well, so the likelihood is that will be the same at LHR.
The current LCY service has a BA codeshare on it as well, so the likelihood is that will be the same at LHR.
The Government went out to the market and asked all the airlines to come up with a proposal for operating London routes and Loganair's was the most aggresive.
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I'm certain I implied best value for money by what I said.
But alas I'm still not convinced its the best, just happy there's finally a degree of security on some routes now.
The commitment to the route from the IOM side is only until the end of the COVID border restrictions and I hope the route matures enough by then for it to maintain a going concern.
But alas I'm still not convinced its the best, just happy there's finally a degree of security on some routes now.
The commitment to the route from the IOM side is only until the end of the COVID border restrictions and I hope the route matures enough by then for it to maintain a going concern.
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Loganair could fly Cape Town to Cape Canaveral for all I care, but the fact is they still link more islands and cities in Scotland to one another than any other airline currently does, ever has and likely ever will, so no matter how much they decide to venture outside of Scotland, they will still be rightfully known as Scotlands Airline.
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Loganair are moving their IOM to LCY route to terminate at Heathrow instead from 1st December. Looks to be once daily to start with, though more to be added according to this tweet:
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Heard today that the 145 in IOM till recently had a bust APU and they were using the ATR to start it though, was going on for a week or so.
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Do we have to put up with this absolute drivel?
The APU of a 145 went u/s in IOM recently. The handling agent's airstart unit was also tech.
The solution was a once-only cross-feed from another 145 which had been flown in straight away to keep the schedule running. This worked to get the original aircraft positioned out of IOM for its APU to be replaced. It took four days to source airstart hoses of the right length and get them to IOM, which was apparently faster than waiting for the Menzies ASU to be sorted.
No ATR involvement and the 145 with the tech APU was out of passenger service, with another 145 keeping the schedule on track.
You make it sound like the 145 with the u/s APU was being jump-started from an ATR for every passenger service, which is far removed from the reality.
The APU of a 145 went u/s in IOM recently. The handling agent's airstart unit was also tech.
The solution was a once-only cross-feed from another 145 which had been flown in straight away to keep the schedule running. This worked to get the original aircraft positioned out of IOM for its APU to be replaced. It took four days to source airstart hoses of the right length and get them to IOM, which was apparently faster than waiting for the Menzies ASU to be sorted.
No ATR involvement and the 145 with the tech APU was out of passenger service, with another 145 keeping the schedule on track.
You make it sound like the 145 with the u/s APU was being jump-started from an ATR for every passenger service, which is far removed from the reality.