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Old 20th Nov 2020, 00:39
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So called "Scotlands" airline applied for 138 LHR slot pairs....

Which they didn't get.

I do wonder what their master plan is?
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Old 20th Nov 2020, 07:39
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An announcement is expected imminently on plans by Loganair to launch services between London Heathrow and the Isle of Man. The Manx government is considering whether the taxpayer should foot the bill for daily flights to Heathrow until the border reopens. Loganair’s managing director Jonathan Hinkles said the island is an ’increasingly important part’ of the Scottish carrier’s network.
In another airline news site called Anna Aero, Jonathan Hinkles, managing director of Loganair, said: ’Our core is still Scotland and Newcastle, plus the Isle of Man now.’ Loganair has three core non-stop routes this winter - Liverpool, London City, and Manchester. Mr Hinkles said: ’Our operations base in the Isle of Man is already set up. We don’t want to create a new base anywhere else.’
Mr Hinkles told the aviation news website: ’We’ve operated to London City for some time, but the Isle of Man Government has a long-standing ambition to be reconnected with Heathrow. We’re still working on the route. We’re in discussions with the island’s government about it, but it must be part of a long-term plan. Our objective must be about the longer-term.’
Loganair eyeing island to Heathrow flights
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Old 20th Nov 2020, 14:23
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Originally Posted by fanrailuk View Post
So called "Scotlands" airline applied for 138 LHR slot pairs....

Which they didn't get.

I do wonder what their master plan is?
"so called Scotland's Airline"
How DARE those little upstarts step outside of their own wee playground!
Look, Loganair are one of the few turboprop operators left in play and they picked up IOM-LCY when BA dropped it. They also moved it to LHR when LCY was closed, flying out of T5 before the BA flight nos were dropped. Now with IOM govt support they are looking to move it back to LHR for reasons of connecting IOM to the wider world. Isn't that a GOOD THING?
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Old 20th Nov 2020, 14:43
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Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot View Post
"so called Scotland's Airline"
How DARE those little upstarts step outside of their own wee playground!
Look, Loganair are one of the few turboprop operators left in play and they picked up IOM-LCY when BA dropped it. They also moved it to LHR when LCY was closed, flying out of T5 before the BA flight nos were dropped. Now with IOM govt support they are looking to move it back to LHR for reasons of connecting IOM to the wider world. Isn't that a GOOD THING?
Being fimilar with the situation, I think you're pushing it a little far there.

The Government went out to the market and asked all the airlines to come up with a proposal for operating London routes and Loganair's was the most aggresive.

But to your points, BA moved the flights to LHR on their own accord as City was closing. I'm not sure it's to do with connecting people to the world, Loganair doesn't really have any agreements to facilitate that, it's more of a vanity thing for all those involved. The Isle of Man Government are having to commit substantial amounts to this new flight.

Yes it is a good thing and the agreement is to run until the end of the border situation / COVID easing - so probably until May time - but I'm not convinced the costs of going to Heathrow are appropriate to be honest when the City loads are so dire.
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Old 20th Nov 2020, 14:58
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Loganair does have quite a few arrangements to connect passengers on to other airlines. Emirates, BA and KLM are three I can think of straight away and I'm sure there are others.

The current LCY service has a BA codeshare on it as well, so the likelihood is that will be the same at LHR.

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Old 20th Nov 2020, 15:03
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The Government went out to the market and asked all the airlines to come up with a proposal for operating London routes and Loganair's was the most aggresive.
Interesting description, was it not also the best?
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Old 20th Nov 2020, 18:00
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I suspect he could never bring himself to say such a thing !
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Old 20th Nov 2020, 18:04
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Originally Posted by Saabdriver1 View Post
I suspect he could never bring himself to say such a thing !
I'm certain I implied best value for money by what I said.

But alas I'm still not convinced its the best, just happy there's finally a degree of security on some routes now.

The commitment to the route from the IOM side is only until the end of the COVID border restrictions and I hope the route matures enough by then for it to maintain a going concern.
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Old 21st Nov 2020, 20:50
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Originally Posted by fanrailuk View Post
So called "Scotlands" airline applied for 138 LHR slot pairs....

Which they didn't get.

I do wonder what their master plan is?
I wonder, did you have an issue with Pan American flying non-USA routes back in the day because of their name?

Loganair could fly Cape Town to Cape Canaveral for all I care, but the fact is they still link more islands and cities in Scotland to one another than any other airline currently does, ever has and likely ever will, so no matter how much they decide to venture outside of Scotland, they will still be rightfully known as Scotlands Airline.
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Old 21st Nov 2020, 21:03
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IOM - BHX as well please, a much missed route for us Midlanders
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Old 22nd Nov 2020, 07:08
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BHX - IOM

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IOM - BHX as well please, a much missed route for us Midlanders
Your wish has already been granted! Loganair plan to fly BHX - IOM from Summer 2021.
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Old 22nd Nov 2020, 10:58
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That's great news ,let's hope that comes off. Loads and fares were always traditionally quite robust on this route
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Old 22nd Nov 2020, 21:43
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So according to SeanM1997, itís all been loaded now. Iím pleased for Loganair!



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Old 22nd Nov 2020, 21:44
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Loganair are moving their IOM to LCY route to terminate at Heathrow instead from 1st December. Looks to be once daily to start with, though more to be added according to this tweet:

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Old 22nd Nov 2020, 22:40
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Well done Loganair.
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Old 23rd Nov 2020, 14:17
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Just when you thought LHR couldnít get any smaller than the Q400.
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Old 23rd Nov 2020, 16:02
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Originally Posted by 4567 View Post
Just when you thought LHR couldnít get any smaller than the Q400.
Are they still going to operated by an ATR 42 or might they change it to an ERJ 145
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Old 23rd Nov 2020, 16:07
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Originally Posted by rhutch28 View Post
Are they still going to operated by an ATR 42 or might they change it to an ERJ 145
LM website is showing as an Embraer 145.
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Old 23rd Nov 2020, 18:10
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Do the Logan 145s have restricted runway performance in the wet? I remember that being an issue when BE operated them for a time.
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Old 23rd Nov 2020, 18:59
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Do the Logan 145s have restricted runway performance in the wet? I remember that being an issue when BE operated them for a time.
I seem to recall some of the ex-BMI ones do.

Heard today that the 145 in IOM till recently had a bust APU and they were using the ATR to start it though, was going on for a week or so.
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