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Old 24th Jul 2019, 09:56
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Originally Posted by Rob Royston View Post
Does anyone know what happened to G-SAJG? It flew GLA DUS on 22nd July but the return flight LM272 was cancelled. G-SAJK is now doing it's routes, is JG still on the ground over there?
JH is on the ground in Londonderry, due to either crew sickness or tech. ( I presume tech). Overall the dispatch reliability of the ERJ fleet seems to be vastly improved BMR. Just seems like one of those days.
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Old 24th Jul 2019, 10:14
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Originally Posted by 4567 View Post
Yeah I meant a domestic hub with the existing routes.
The only less suitably located airport for a domestic hub I can think of would be Manston, to be honest.
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Old 25th Jul 2019, 13:08
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Flight delay court cases could close routes, says Loganair boss

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...iness-49108378
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Old 25th Jul 2019, 15:11
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I don't think weather related delays qualify for compensation, so the argument appears to oversimplify the legal situation.
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Old 25th Jul 2019, 17:05
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I think the point is the ambulance chasers are trying to get the interpretation changed so that weather delays are eligible. Thatíll be another victory for greed over safety if any judge is stupid enough to fall for it.
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Old 25th Jul 2019, 19:42
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I have yet to see a court in Europe that would award compensation based on weather. The problem is that airlines know perfectly well that weather as force majeure is their best available escape hatch so they play the weather card often in cases where the real reason was poor organization, operational chaos that was only remotely, if at all, linked to bad weather.
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Old 25th Jul 2019, 19:43
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Was looking at going to GLA for a day and was looking at booking BHD-GLA with Flybe and GLA-LDY with Loganair. Look's like both ways could be on a LM ER4 if this turns out to come true on the day:

https://gyazo.com/c7a8a5bbcddb44d1413d507341819011


Signs of increasing co-operation between the "exes" again I wonder?
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Old 31st Jul 2019, 17:51
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According to Jethro's, Flybe are leasing a Embraer ERB 145 from Loganair starting 1st August, to be based at Glasgow.
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Old 31st Jul 2019, 19:04
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Originally Posted by garry8g View Post
According to Jethro's, Flybe are leasing a Embraer ERB 145 from Loganair starting 1st August, to be based at Glasgow.
Good use of the 'extra' Emb145, though lets hope they still have the spare too, as a fair few significant delays of late which is not great for the newly launched routes needing to build up patronage with good reliability.
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Old 31st Jul 2019, 19:08
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Originally Posted by VickersVicount View Post

Good use of the 'extra' Emb145, though lets hope they still have the spare too, as a fair few significant delays of late which is not great for the newly launched routes needing to build up patronage with good reliability.
I think they still will have one in ABZ. I'll need to check it fully.
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Old 1st Aug 2019, 12:37
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Originally Posted by Fly757X View Post
I think they still will have one in ABZ. I'll need to check it fully.
They move them around so much it's hard to keep track.
Of the 4 @ 135's SAJT looks like it's heading for Lisbon today (could be maintenance). SAJU is on the Kerry charter from ABZ
Of the 13 @ 145's I can only see one aircraft on the Airbus charter. RJXH is doing the BE flights, GLA BHD.
SAJF went to GLA on Jul 30th from LDY and has been idle since. SAJH is at LDY but has not been flown today. I can't find anything on SAJL, so assume it has not flown for a week.
So not a lot of slack to play with, I suppose they can fall back on the Saab's if necessary.
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Old 1st Aug 2019, 13:25
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Originally Posted by Rob Royston View Post
They move them around so much it's hard to keep track.
Of the 4 @ 135's SAJT looks like it's heading for Lisbon today (could be maintenance). SAJU is on the Kerry charter from ABZ
Of the 13 @ 145's I can only see one aircraft on the Airbus charter. RJXH is doing the BE flights, GLA BHD.
SAJF went to GLA on Jul 30th from LDY and has been idle since. SAJH is at LDY but has not been flown today. I can't find anything on SAJL, so assume it has not flown for a week.
So not a lot of slack to play with, I suppose they can fall back on the Saab's if necessary.
SAJL is in Alverca (Lisbon) so could well be swapped with JT however it wasn't too long since JL went down.
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Old 1st Aug 2019, 15:43
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Does any one know why Loganair have been using the back up SAAB 340 ES-NSC at CAX in place of the ES-NSD? Also is it normal to have a backup on site not flying on most days?
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Old 1st Aug 2019, 19:20
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Originally Posted by Airlinepilot1687 View Post
Does any one know why Loganair have been using the back up SAAB 340 ES-NSC at CAX in place of the ES-NSD? Also is it normal to have a backup on site not flying on most days?
It is if nothing is breaking
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Old 4th Aug 2019, 08:48
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The Loganair fleet Currently consists of over 40 aircraft - namely the Embraer 135/145, Saab 2000, Saab 340, Twin Otter and Islanders. From September 2019, we will be introducing the ATR to our fleet with a view to replace the Saab 2000 and eventually the Saab 340.
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Old 4th Aug 2019, 10:45
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presumably with a long term view of ATRs and Islander/Twotters only?
Get used to the gas guzzling jets while you can! The passengers are being spoiled..
(Will try one tomorrow infact!)
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Old 4th Aug 2019, 12:44
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Maybe in the future Loganair would consider the EMB 170 for a few of their better performing routes with the ATR taking on the rest? Although you obviously wouldn’t want the same mistakes as Flybe.
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Old 4th Aug 2019, 14:15
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I think by the time that Loganair are considering replacing ERJs for their longer and wider routes, the SpaceJet M100 could be a much better choice than the E170 with their high seat costs. The M100 would certainly look great in the Loganair livery, as they look a lot like grown up Saab to me with their similar layout and proportions.

That is, of course only if Loganair could get them for a reasonable price.
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Old 4th Aug 2019, 14:30
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Originally Posted by mullac30 View Post
the SpaceJet M100 could be a much better choice
I would set a small wager we will never see a Mitsubishi SpaceJet in Loganair colours...
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Old 4th Aug 2019, 16:33
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It’s hard to see what they’d eventually replace the EMB with if they want to keep jet capability.
with Mitsubishi taking over the CRJ programme they certainly seem to want to build themselves up in the regional jet market.
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