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Old 31st Aug 2020, 23:05
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The comments from Racedo about people's view on Covid I have to agree with. Post 1115. A combination of the Gov scaring people too well, making the rules too much in favour of employees on not working because of Covid and people using it as an excuse are slowly starting to paralyze this country. It is starting to have a seriously negative impact on industry and the travel industry is having a very hard time for all to see. I have a very good friend works as a foreman on a building site, he tells me of the difficulty getting supplies for building sites. The service from many large companies is now atrocious. I am starting to wonder how, without some serious government intervention to make things happen, we, as a country, get out of this.
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Old 1st Sep 2020, 09:21
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I'm afraid its too late.

The opportunity to try crawl out of this hole has in my view gone already. June onwards should have been the time when some normality could have been resumed at least for three to four months - instead, even though the rise in the number of cases has increased dramatically and the numbers of seriously ill and dead has been pretty much limited, Governments decided to crucify their economies further by insane quarantine regulations. Do they not see that those with this virus have been in the majority, asymptomatic? It probably has been like this every single summer for decades with influenza but the testing and tracking has never really existed.

Now we are faced with autumn and winter where things might get out of hand again clinically speaking. Meanwhile, any faint hope of partial economic recovery has been shot to pieces by reactionary Government interventions.

And we all sit by and do nothing and let it happen. Livelihoods maimed in all directions.
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Old 1st Sep 2020, 09:58
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Suddenly everyone's an expert on virology and pandemics.
If it was your loved ones succumbing to a lonely death in a quarrantined hospital ward maybe your opinion would differ.

Is it normal for 600 plus NHS staff and carers to die from the common flu every year?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/h...-a9665386.html
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Old 1st Sep 2020, 16:15
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Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot View Post
Good point, but part of something vs. all of nothing given desperate times. It's no accident Virgin are really slow at refunding people.....
In the case of Cathay at LGW, they'd not be refunding all that many as the LHR option would be very similar timings on a mid-day ex London. It's not like there's a world of other options anymore.
Well noted. Cathay are still listing LGW-HKG as resuming from 25th October, although as you rightly say, LHR-HKG is now down to the single morning departure, so it would make sense financially for CX to shift LGW passengers to LHR given the similar departure times of both flights. I do think we will see CX return to LGW eventually, perhaps at reduced frequency before building back up to daily. I was chatting with someone in their London office recently, and he said Cathay are very happy at LGW (in addition to LHR) and that it serves as a very good route for them.
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Old 1st Sep 2020, 16:17
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It’s being reported on Facebook that Westjet is moving to Heathrow. They have slots for two daily flights at the moment. Not confirmed which destinations will go.
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Old 1st Sep 2020, 18:56
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Originally Posted by TURIN View Post
Suddenly everyone's an expert on virology and pandemics.
If it was your loved ones succumbing to a lonely death in a quarrantined hospital ward maybe your opinion would differ.

Is it normal for 600 plus NHS staff and carers to die from the common flu every year?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/h...-a9665386.html
It is pretty normal for more than 600 NHS staff to die each year......................... bearing in mind that NHS and healthcare employs 1.9 million people.

However where as the media have focused on BAME people in the UK and indicate there is a higher death rate............... which is true. It also overlooks the higher propernity for 1st Gen immigrants to suffer from diabetes. Certain 1st Gen Immigrants have a prevalence 5 times more that UK born population to suffer from diabetes. This is not "NEW" News as has been known about for decades and issue is in the main dietary led where the greater propensity for sugars and other foods not experienced in home country has impacted.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4733447/

If Covid-19 was specific to certain communities then it would be prevalent worldwide, it is not hence local factors play a significant part.
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Old 1st Sep 2020, 19:58
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Originally Posted by racedo View Post
It is pretty normal for more than 600 NHS staff to die each year......................... bearing in mind that NHS and healthcare employs 1.9 million people.
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From the same disease? I think not. The 600+ deaths are from Covid or related. There will be other NHS staff that have died from causes unrelated to Covid.
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Old 1st Sep 2020, 20:03
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What % of CC booking do airlines get from CC company ? I had assummed that CC company hold a good % back until flight has occurred.
It varies massively from airline to airline, and indeed between the card companies. I don't recognise the previous answer given in any way.

Some airlines are on 100% withholding and funds are only released to them after the passenger has flown - I'd expect Norwegian (and maybe Virgin) to be in that position. Others receive funds within two to five days of the customer's transaction and I'd expect the likes of BA and easyJet to be in that position. The risk to the passenger doesn't change, as the card acquirer is carrying the risk between these extremes.

If you approach the CAA with an airline business plan, their second question (after "who are you" as the first) for some years has been "who will be doing your payment card processing". It's a major issue for the industry.
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Old 2nd Sep 2020, 10:08
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It wouldn't surprise if more followed as slots became available - LHR always commands a premium on fares
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Old 13th Sep 2020, 15:18
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Cathay Pacific

CX LGW-HKG resumption now further delayed until 1st January 21, when daily A359 service resumes once again.

Source: Cathay Pacific.
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Old 17th Sep 2020, 10:16
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Just for info I have just had my LGW FNC on 31/12/20 changed to LHR. It appears that LGW is not going to reopen for some flights this winter
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Old 17th Sep 2020, 12:03
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My BA flights to Spain in March also changed to LHR.

Bye bye BA LGW.
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Old 17th Sep 2020, 16:41
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Many routes move to Heathrow until 27 March 2021: Algiers, Alicante, Amsterdam, Bilbao, Bordeaux, Dubrovnik, Faro, Funchal, Geneva, Gran Canaria, Grenoble, Innsbruck, Jersey, Lanzarote, Malaga, Malta, Marrakech, Naples, Paphos, Porto, Salzburg, Tenerife, Tirana, Turin, Venice, Verona and Vienna

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Old 17th Sep 2020, 16:56
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Well currently on some random dates in November and January BA showing no flights from LGW to EDI or GLA in their app (message is “sorry we don’t fly from Gatwick to Edinburgh/ Glasgow “)
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Old 17th Sep 2020, 17:34
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I don’t think any of those list are appearing...
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Old 17th Sep 2020, 19:18
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With BA seemingly not returning to LGW in any meaningful manner and furlough fast coming to an end, one assumes this does not bode well for the BA LGW ground staff.
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Old 17th Sep 2020, 19:30
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They were being outsourced to GGS anyway. However with only B777 longhaul at 3 per day, there's a clear business case to outsource to a 3rd party handler once again. I don't think BA know what next summer looks like yet, no one does.
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Old 17th Sep 2020, 19:33
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Emirates pushed back to 01Dec. Probably will
be changed again
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Old 18th Sep 2020, 05:49
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https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...te-march-2021/

Confirmation of BA’s suspension of LGW operations
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Old 18th Sep 2020, 06:29
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Originally Posted by Aksai Oiler View Post
https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...te-march-2021/

Confirmation of BA’s suspension of LGW operations
AirlineRoute is not confirmation - the account is not an official spokesperson for new routes - just a blogger with a website. There is no difference from other people announcing the exact same (as I and others did) based on British Airways taking flights off their website (all public). Official confirmation is when it comes from British Airways directly - everybody else's "confirmation" is just repeating what the airline has said or done.

For instance, I got my information from the British Airways website - is this any less "confirmation"?
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