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Old 16th Aug 2019, 21:44
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Originally Posted by MerchantVenturer View Post
BRS-ARN began in November 2017 as a year-round route, 2 x weekly. It remained year-round until this coming winter's timetable was published.

We will no doubt have to wait until easyJet announces its summer 2020 programme to see if it returns then. In terms of loads summer has been generally very good with sell-outs a not uncommon occurrence (three sectors this week and early next for instance). In deep mid-winter one or two months saw relatively poor average loads.

Obviously we don't know the yield from the route.
Ezy are also terminating LTN-ARN.
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Old 26th Sep 2019, 20:55
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BRS's passenger numbers will be substantially affected by the loss of Thomas Cook. TCX handled about half a million passengers annually at BRS, approximately 6% of the total annual passenger throughput. With flybmi ceasing to operate last February that is another potential 200,000 passengers down. However, that deficit has been mitigated significantly with Brussels Airlines taking back BRU, albeit with a third party carrier, easyJet doubling its own frequency to 2 x daily on CDG, Loganair taking on ABZ, easyJet and Ryanair commencing MXP, all routes that flybmi operated, but flybmi's other routes - FRA, MUC,DUS and HAM - have not been replaced.

BRS has seen strong passenger growth in recent years from 6.3 mppa in 2014 to 8.7 mppa in 2018. The current 12-monthly rolling total (to July) is just under 8.9 mppa. Had TCX continued to operate, and with other airline growth, it's likely that 10mppa would have been within touching distance over the next couple of years.

That might have presented a problem to the airport as its current planning consents restrict it to 10 mppa. BRS has applied to the local authority for the limit to be raised to 12 mppa and submitted planning applications for infrastructure expansion to enable it to handle that number. The applications have been with the local authority for most of this year with no sign yet of a determination date. With the political colour of the local authority (North Somerset unitary authority) markedly changed since May's local elections it is quite likely that the applications will be rejected. That could lead to a Planning Inspectorate appeal which might not be completed for up to another two years.

Laudamotion announced today that they would be commencing BRS-Vienna on 29 March next year at 2 x weekly on Sundays and Wednesdays. That will compete with easyJet's BRS-VIE also 2 x weekly but which is being increased to 3 x weekly for much of the coming winter and next summer until the end of June, after which it reverts to 2 x weekly.
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Old 26th Sep 2019, 21:08
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Originally Posted by MerchantVenturer View Post
BRS's passenger numbers will be substantially affected by the loss of Thomas Cook. TCX handled about half a million passengers annually at BRS, approximately 6% of the total annual passenger throughput. With flybmi ceasing to operate last February that is another potential 200,000 passengers down. However, that deficit has been mitigated significantly with Brussels Airlines taking back BRU, albeit with a third party carrier, easyJet doubling its own frequency to 2 x daily on CDG, Loganair taking on ABZ, easyJet and Ryanair commencing MXP, all routes that flybmi operated, but flybmi's other routes - FRA, MUC,DUS and HAM - have not been replaced.

BRS has seen strong passenger growth in recent years from 6.3 mppa in 2014 to 8.7 mppa in 2018. The current 12-monthly rolling total (to July) is just under 8.9 mppa. Had TCX continued to operate, and with other airline growth, it's likely that 10mppa would have been within touching distance over the next couple of years.

That might have presented a problem to the airport as its current planning consents restrict it to 10 mppa. BRS has applied to the local authority for the limit to be raised to 12 mppa and submitted planning applications for infrastructure expansion to enable it to handle that number. The applications have been with the local authority for most of this year with no sign yet of a determination date. With the political colour of the local authority (North Somerset unitary authority) markedly changed since May's local elections it is quite likely that the applications will be rejected. That could lead to a Planning Inspectorate appeal which might not be completed for up to another two years.

Laudamotion announced today that they would be commencing BRS-Vienna on 29 March next year at 2 x weekly on Sundays and Wednesdays. That will compete with easyJet's BRS-VIE also 2 x weekly but which is being increased to 3 x weekly for much of the coming winter and next summer until the end of June, after which it reverts to 2 x weekly.
Are the existing VIE flights full? Is 4x weekly on two carriers sustainable?
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Old 27th Sep 2019, 14:23
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Originally Posted by CabinCrewe View Post
Are the existing VIE flights full? Is 4x weekly on two carriers sustainable?
Itís difficult to be absolutely sure about load factors because with the loss of the BRS Mayfly itís not easy (no pun) to keep track of the aircraft types, but a considerable majority on the Vienna route appear to be 156-seat A319s. If that is the case the monthly load factors this summer (ie since April) would have been comfortably into the 90% zone.

easyJet began the route in 2015 and it has operated year-round at 2 x weekly since then although, as I said previously, itís being increased to 3 x weekly for much of the coming winter and through the first part of next summer which with Lauda would give a 5 x weekly service next summer.

easyJet and Ryanair compete on 13 routes at BRS, some seasonal. Not all the competed routes are obvious sun routes.

For example easyJet and Ryanair go head to head year-round on Krakow (up to 9 x weekly between the two airlines), Seville (up to 5 x weekly), Venice Marco Polo (up to 12 x weekly) and Milan Malpensa (up to 6 x weekly) with Ryanair also offering Bergamo year-round at 3 x weekly.

Given that Ryanair will know the BRS market well, having had a base there for 12 years and flown in from other bases before that, one can only presume that they think Lauda will work on VIE alongside easyJet, at least in the summer.
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Old 10th Oct 2019, 23:06
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September 2019 passengers

https://www.bristolairport.co.uk/abo...ts-and-figures

Up 2.69% which included 8 days of the Thomas Cook closure.

On the same matter, has there been any obvious replacement flights added by easyjet, TUI and Ryanair?

BHX and MAN has been well publicised with Jet2 adding flights regularly over the last two weeks has Bristol seen the same from any of the above?

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Old 11th Oct 2019, 07:42
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Originally Posted by OltonPete View Post
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Up 2.69% which included 8 days of the Thomas Cook closure.

On the same matter, has there been any obvious replacement flights added by easyjet, TUI and Ryanair?

BHX and MAN has been well publicised with Jet2 adding flights regularly over the last two weeks has Bristol seen the same from any of the above?

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no increases whatsoever so far.
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Old 11th Oct 2019, 07:49
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no increases whatsoever so far.
Also no talk what so ever about extra cover flights. The only thing different is Easyjet with A321 aircraft,but they already have their work sorted.
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Old 11th Oct 2019, 07:57
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It seems that so far Jet2 have no plans to come down to the SW.

BRS CWL EXT and their spiritual home of BOH....
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Old 11th Oct 2019, 08:16
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Originally Posted by rog747 View Post
It seems that so far Jet2 have no plans to come down to the SW.

BRS CWL EXT and their spiritual home of BOH....
they will have their hands full backfilling the growth especially at MAN and BHX, a shortage of B737 on the market for at least the next year. TUI will also lack aircraft capacity for the same reason, and will also struggle to fill the gap left by TC, but in my view there is no doubt Jet2 will head further south as soon as they are able.

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Old 11th Oct 2019, 08:21
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they will have their hands full backfilling the growth especially at MAN and BHX, a shortage of B737 on the market for at least the next year. TUI will also lack aircraft capacity for the same reason, and will also struggle to fill the gap left by TC, but in my view there is no doubt Jet2 will head further south as soon as they are able.

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Possibly, I agree, and it seems for Jet2 BRS would seem to be a good place to start to fill a large gap left by TCK/MT but I guess TUI EZY and FR could/can take that on.
Trouble with EXT CWL and to some extent BOH the market is really a summer only one, with peak winter troughs and some Ski market.
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Old 11th Oct 2019, 10:13
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Originally Posted by rog747 View Post
Possibly, I agree, and it seems for Jet2 BRS would seem to be a good place to start to fill a large gap left by TCK/MT but I guess TUI EZY and FR could/can take that on.
Trouble with EXT CWL and to some extent BOH the market is really a summer only one, with peak winter troughs and some Ski market.
In all probability they'll just put a big base at Bristol eventually and just ignore the other airports like Easyjet do.
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Old 11th Oct 2019, 11:52
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Thomas Cook had three A321s based at BRS in summer, athough one was replaced by a 320 for part of the season in a pre-planned move, and one A321 in winter. Thomas Cook handled about 500,000 passengers annually at BRS in recent years so that's a fair chunk out of a near 9 mppa throughput. With flybmi calling it a day in February it's not been the best of years for BRS although growth this year will still likely to be around 200,000+ which is still a far cry from the 2.4 million added in the previous four years.

Given the wealthy nature and propensity to travel of much of the immediate city region and West Country in general it might be surprising if some of the TCX void is not replaced by someone. Who that someone might be is far more difficult to determine. The only obvious gesture so far is Ryanair adding a fourth weekly Malta rotation next summer following Thomas Cook's absence on the route - Air Malta also seems to have gone.

Ryanair's Laudamotion announced a Vienna route for next summer but that will compete with easyJet's existing route which is year-round and that's the total of recent route announcements.

2020 is likely to be just the sixth calendar year since 1970 that BRS will have seen a drop in annual passenger numbers against the prevous year, although until the 1980s annual passenger throughput was in low six figures.
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Old 22nd Oct 2019, 13:43
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TUI S2020

3 new services from TUI for Summer 2020

Izmir, Girona and Almeria

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Old 22nd Oct 2019, 15:56
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The SN BRS-BRU flight is back to overnighting from Monday 28OCT (out at 06:05, back in at 21:20), and the following Sunday 03NOV back to double daily. I've had a quick look across the flights, and they're all looking fairly lightly booked at the moment. I have a feeling it's going to take a while for that route to recover, so I hope SN sticks with it.

It'd be nice to bring back the third mid-morning rotation too, as currently I can fly out to the USA and Asia from BRS, but I'm not spending 10 hours waiting at BRU to come back to BRS on the way home.
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Old 25th Oct 2019, 17:26
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Passenger figures

CAA August stats for BRS finally published today. The airport handled 1,009,498 passengers in the month, up 4.66% on August 2018. This is the first time that BRS has handled more than a million passengers in a calendar month.

Rolling 12-month total was 8.918 million.
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Old 30th Oct 2019, 11:56
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Lufthansa

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The Franfurt link is being restored from next March with a twice daily except Saturdays E190 service. The route ceased last February when flybmi with Lufthansa code share went out of business.
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Old 30th Oct 2019, 12:54
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Originally Posted by MerchantVenturer View Post
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The Franfurt link is being restored from next March with a twice daily except Saturdays E190 service. The route ceased last February when flybmi with Lufthansa code share went out of business.
This is really good news. The morning flight time (08:20 from FRA, 09:35 from BRS) isn't ideal, but hopefully it can edge back to being a nightstop again.

As Brussels and Lufty are both LH Group airlines, it's possible to do BRS-BRU-USA in the morning with the 06:05 to BRU, and come back NYC-FRA-BRS in the morning with the 08:20 ex FRA. I don't know how/if that option will work out automatically on either the LH or SN online booking engines, but it's a good one.

I guess this is Lufthansa back as actual Lufthansa for the first time since 2008?
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Old 30th Oct 2019, 13:39
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This is great news, Singapore via Frankfurt here I come!
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Old 30th Oct 2019, 14:25
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I guess this is Lufthansa back as actual Lufthansa for the first time since 2008?
Eurowings operated the flights with Bae146-300 aircraft - 3 x daily, 21 x weekly. They operated from the end of March 2008 until April 2009. In that time a touch under 100,000 passengers were carried but probably too many seats at that frequency. The recession was also beginning to bite hard.

2 x daily on a 100-seat aircraft might be a better fit although you mention the flight times. Eurowings departures from BRS in the summer were 0630, 1150 and 1735. Arrivals were 0955/1015 (varied according to day of the week), 1700 and 2215. The winter timings were slight variations on the above.
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Old 30th Oct 2019, 15:06
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This is really good news. The morning flight time (08:20 from FRA, 09:35 from BRS) isn't ideal, but hopefully it can edge back to being a nightstop again.

As Brussels and Lufty are both LH Group airlines, it's possible to do BRS-BRU-USA in the morning with the 06:05 to BRU, and come back NYC-FRA-BRS in the morning with the 08:20 ex FRA. I don't know how/if that option will work out automatically on either the LH or SN online booking engines, but it's a good one.

I guess this is Lufthansa back as actual Lufthansa for the first time since 2008?
Only morning BRS departure that would make any sense would be the Monday and possibly the Tues at a push. Rest of the week are dogs.

They've obviously done their homework as these are the best flights. Slightly surprised that no day 6 option is there.
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