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Old 20th Oct 2023, 09:18
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They dropped Gdansk and Warsaw Modlin though
Gdańsk resumes mid March as does Warsaw for a short pre Easter series once a week
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EZY will base a 18th aircraft next summer
https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/b...es-two-8941323
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Old 10th Dec 2023, 12:21
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Fire at Bristol Airport Car Park

Not a Multistorey like Luton so put out quickly.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-67674897
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Old 20th Dec 2023, 07:14
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LH @ BRS

Lufthansa are ending their FRA service from 3 Feb with all flights off sale (LPL is also off sale from 2 Feb)

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Old 25th Jan 2024, 13:25
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FR changes for S24

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Lufthansa are ending their FRA service from 3 Feb with all flights off sale (LPL is also off sale from 2 Feb)

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Some Ryanair changes for S24 are;

- FR to CGN ~ last flight 30 March
- FR to RIX ~ last flight 30 March
- FR to SOF ~ continues year round
- FR to CPH ~ begins 31 March (3 weekly)
- FR to FUE ~ begins 1 July (2 weekly)
- FR to PRG ~ begins 4 July (2 weekly)
- FR to TIA ~ beings 2 April (2 weekly)
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Old 9th Feb 2024, 15:29
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It’s a multi story exactly like Luton’s. Hope the insurance is topped up!
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Old 15th Feb 2024, 01:05
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I've been looking at CAA airport data.. and keep getting the message that BRS is going through something of a growth spurt in passenger numbers.

I know Easyjet, Jet2 and Ryanair all have substantial operations at Bristol, and that LHR isn't *that* far away. However, I'm puzzled as to why the AF-KL group considers KL flights to Amsterdam as sufficient but is not flying AF to Paris as well.

I get that going up against (up to) 5x daily Easyjet is formidable, but there is clearly a sizeable point-to-point demand to Paris and there is relatively little network carrier capacity at Bristol for long-haul connections given Bristol saw 10 million pax in the last 12 months.

Anyone able to say why AF have not re-opened or should not re-open a route to CDG ?
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Old 15th Feb 2024, 06:33
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Originally Posted by davidjohnson6
I've been looking at CAA airport data.. and keep getting the message that BRS is going through something of a growth spurt in passenger numbers.

I know Easyjet, Jet2 and Ryanair all have substantial operations at Bristol, and that LHR isn't *that* far away. However, I'm puzzled as to why the AF-KL group considers KL flights to Amsterdam as sufficient but is not flying AF to Paris as well.

I get that going up against (up to) 5x daily Easyjet is formidable, but there is clearly a sizeable point-to-point demand to Paris and there is relatively little network carrier capacity at Bristol for long-haul connections given Bristol saw 10 million pax in the last 12 months.

Anyone able to say why AF have not re-opened or should not re-open a route to CDG ?
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Shortage of aircraft/crew at Hop would be my guess
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Old 15th Feb 2024, 13:25
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Leeds Bradford has enjoyed a continuous multi-daily service to Amsterdam since 1976, when Air Anglia took on the route from British Airways. Effectively , LBA-AMS has been flown by the same operator since then, from Air Anglia, Air UK, KLM UK and now KLM City hopper, now a part of the same KLM-Air France empire. 48 years in and LBA doesn't see the Air France side of the partnership either! Jet2 fly to Paris a few times a week, no multiple daily flights and not daily. I'm not sure Jet2 are that serious about the route. It's not that many years since British Midland flew LBA-CDG up to three times a day. And Brussels too.
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Old 15th Feb 2024, 13:39
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In 2023, Leeds had 4 million passengers, while Bristol had 10 million.
Easyjet have demonstrated FAR more people currently fly point-to-point or self-connect between BRS and Paris compared to between LBA and Paris. If Jet2 were seeing super-strong demand for LBA-CDG flights, they would likely do something about it. Maybe there is latent unfulfilled demand from Leeds to Paris... but it's quantity is somewhat unknown.
Remember, CURRENT market demand, verified by what people actually pay and not what they just say. Not what it was 17 years ago - bmi cut their LBA-CDG route in February 2007
In the last 10 years, LBA pax has grown by 20 % while BRS pax has grown 62 %

If you were a network planner working for Air France....out of BRS and LBA, which new UK route would you consider a safer bet ?

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Old 15th Feb 2024, 14:21
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Originally Posted by davidjohnson6
In 2023, Leeds had 4 million passengers, while Bristol had 10 million.
Easyjet have demonstrated FAR more people want to fly point-to-point or self-connect between Bristol and Paris compared to between Leeds and Paris. If Jet2 were seeing super-strong demand for LBA-CDG flights, they would likely do something about it.
Remember, CURRENT market demand, not what it was 17 years ago - bmi cut their LBA-CDG route in February 2007
In the last 10 years, LBA pax has grown by 20 % while BRS pax has grown 62 %

If you were a network planner working for Air France....out of BRS and LBA, which new UK route would you consider a safer bet ?
Just my two penny worth, but I would go as far as to say neither is particularly attractive. EasyJet competition makes BRS-CDG a bit of a basket case for Air France in respect of local yields and for long haul too many people still prefer to go to Heathrow for a direct flight to their destination. Air France have had a long on-off relationship with Bristol but re-establishing the route is clearly a challenge for the airport. In respect of LBA-CDG, the Air France planners are probably more interested in frequency and capacity increases on MAN-CDG. If Transpennine trains are working well and the M62 is behaving itself Manchester is readily accessible from a large part of West Yorkshire. Now if road access to LBA could be improved and it did not have some issues with weather, it might be a different matter. It is far lower risk for AF/KL to add frequency and capacity on LBA-AMS than start LBA-CDG. AF only serve CDG from LHR, BHX, MAN, NCL and EDI so perhaps, with their Dutch partners serving many, many more, that is all they feel they need.
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Old 15th Feb 2024, 14:58
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There seems to be a decline in connecting traffic at BRS overall. BMI to MUC and FRA, recently replaced by LH who have since dropped the route. AF to CDG and Brussels Airlines to BRU, all no longer. BRS is probably seeing the same issue with traffic leakage to LHR as CWL is with BRS. I would imagine a middle eastern carrier would do quite well out of BRS, or Turkish being the main suspect.
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Old 15th Feb 2024, 20:26
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Originally Posted by Mooncrest
Leeds Bradford has enjoyed a continuous multi-daily service to Amsterdam since 1976, when Air Anglia took on the route from British Airways. Effectively , LBA-AMS has been flown by the same operator since then, from Air Anglia, Air UK, KLM UK and now KLM City hopper, now a part of the same KLM-Air France empire. 48 years in and LBA doesn't see the Air France side of the partnership either! Jet2 fly to Paris a few times a week, no multiple daily flights and not daily. I'm not sure Jet2 are that serious about the route. It's not that many years since British Midland flew LBA-CDG up to three times a day. And Brussels too.
Capacity to Paris from Leeds this summer is quite big compared to previous years.

Jet2 are actually increasing frequency of its Leeds - Paris CDG route from 4x to 5x weekly Boeing 737-300's.
​​​​​​Ryanair will be operating between 3x & 5x weekly on the Leeds to Paris Beauvais route using Boeing 737-MAX8's

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