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Response from BE on their Facebook page when asked by a punter if forward bookings would be honoured!
"Please be assured that all flights will be operating as usual. Things at Flybe are going well. The strategy we have for growth is already delivering. Our costs are reducing and our unit revenue is up. We see this as positive news, but we want to consider all possible options"
"Please be assured that all flights will be operating as usual. Things at Flybe are going well. The strategy we have for growth is already delivering. Our costs are reducing and our unit revenue is up. We see this as positive news, but we want to consider all possible options"
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I suppose they can't say anything else, but I really do wonder if they genuinely believe their strategy is working. It clearly isn't. And selling a bucketload of tickets in advance at well below-average yields for this winter may have helped cash but it will not help the losses in any way.
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Dark clouds ahead for Flybe
https://www.socialist.net/dark-cloud...-for-flybe.htm
The uncertainty about Flybe's fate affects a lot of people. It also places a question mark next to certain essential routes. Flybe has been providing crucial links to and from the islands. For example, the Isle of Man government is heavily dependent on the daily flights to Liverpool for patients.
Incidentally, just a few months ago the flight and cabin crew of Stobart Air in the Isle of Man, who have been providing this service so far as a subcontractor to Flybe, were effectively told they would be out of a job soon as Flybe will take this route back in-house next March. What will happen to these crucial medical transfers if Flybe folds?
At the time of Monarch's collapse, people were speculating that the airline was going to be bought for airport slots. Instead, competitor airlines let it fail by itself, and then bought what they wanted from the administrators without the associated headache of a needless acquisition.
With KPMG now going in, as they did with Monarch, history may well repeat itself - although it can't be excluded that the Stobart Group may take a gamble and buy Flybe outright.
The most likely scenario, however, remains Flybe being carved up and the vultures picking the premium slots on core profitable routes. In other words: asset stripping.
This is meant to be a ‘Golden Age’ for the aviation industry. Indeed, for flight crew at least, these last years have seen a small relative upswing compared to the days of the 2008 crash.
The tide, however, has started to turn. The writing is now truly on the wall. Monarch went bust last year, as did Primera Air a few months ago. The feeling amongst insiders is that “we are due a big one”.
Dark clouds are gathering on the horizon - and Flybe may well end up in them.
Incidentally, just a few months ago the flight and cabin crew of Stobart Air in the Isle of Man, who have been providing this service so far as a subcontractor to Flybe, were effectively told they would be out of a job soon as Flybe will take this route back in-house next March. What will happen to these crucial medical transfers if Flybe folds?
At the time of Monarch's collapse, people were speculating that the airline was going to be bought for airport slots. Instead, competitor airlines let it fail by itself, and then bought what they wanted from the administrators without the associated headache of a needless acquisition.
With KPMG now going in, as they did with Monarch, history may well repeat itself - although it can't be excluded that the Stobart Group may take a gamble and buy Flybe outright.
The most likely scenario, however, remains Flybe being carved up and the vultures picking the premium slots on core profitable routes. In other words: asset stripping.
This is meant to be a ‘Golden Age’ for the aviation industry. Indeed, for flight crew at least, these last years have seen a small relative upswing compared to the days of the 2008 crash.
The tide, however, has started to turn. The writing is now truly on the wall. Monarch went bust last year, as did Primera Air a few months ago. The feeling amongst insiders is that “we are due a big one”.
Dark clouds are gathering on the horizon - and Flybe may well end up in them.
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Cannot see the government letting flybe fail TBH , To much hinges on them, If someone like easy jet fails to step in i can see government funds being provided to get them through this blip
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The UK government doesn't give a crap about Flybe. If any government was to step in it would be the Welsh government.
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''Due a big one' I would suggest Monarch was rather big. As regards government aid in your dreams son, rather more pressing matters at the moment. Transport minister couldn't run a bath! If Flybe goes (hope not) some routes will be picked up by other airlines but not all. Don't forget on domestic routes you pay two lots of APD.
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Flybe are far more important to the economy of the UK than say MON were On many routes they operate they are the life blood of the community which is why im confident the governent will step in
Exeter for eg would be ghost town if flybe went under.
IOM very reliant on them also
Exeter for eg would be ghost town if flybe went under.
IOM very reliant on them also
Flybe are far more important to the economy of the UK than say MON were On many routes they operate they are the life blood of the community which is why im confident the governent will step in
Exeter for eg would be ghost town if flybe went under.
IOM very reliant on them also
Exeter for eg would be ghost town if flybe went under.
IOM very reliant on them also
If Exeter (airport) became a ghost town, would No.10 lose a moments sleep? I very much doubt it.
If FlyBe were a major player at LHR, they may give it a little more attention, then move on, let the market decide etc etc.
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Flybe are far more important to the economy of the UK than say MON were On many routes they operate they are the life blood of the community which is why im confident the governent will step in
Exeter for eg would be ghost town if flybe went under.
IOM very reliant on them also
Exeter for eg would be ghost town if flybe went under.
IOM very reliant on them also
If the UK Government were remotely interested in regional / domestic aviation they wouldn't be stinging them with one of the world's highest Airport Departure taxes, whilst subsidising profiteering rail franchise operators.
The Welsh goverment support the infrastructure not the airlines.The biggest deal at EGFF is British Airways maintenance.
Flybe will probably emerge from this as a trimmed down super version of the old JEA operation.
If it was not for politics Filton would now be the logical replacement for both Cardiff and Lulsgate.
You mean like subsidising the NQY/LGW route when it should be and has been perfectly viable on its own over many years.
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That won’t happen.
The Welsh goverment support the infrastructure not the airlines.The biggest deal at EGFF is British Airways maintenance.
Flybe will probably emerge from this as a trimmed down super version of the old JEA operation.
If it was not for politics Filton would now be the logical replacement for both Cardiff and Lulsgate.
It amases me why people think taking away Wales only airport with international connections and moving it too England would be good for Wales as a country? Cardiff may be small but it is in Wales which people seem to ignore is actually a country and not a region of England or a suburb of Bristol and Manchester. Guess it just shows how Wales and us Welsh are perceived by our neighbours.
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It probably won't happen but they do have a marketing deal with Qatar Airways so if they feel it's worth it they'll support a route/airline but Flybe needs an investor. Hopefully behind the scenes both the airport and the government will be lobbying potentional investors for Flybe.
It amases me why people think taking away Wales only airport with international connections and moving it too England would be good for Wales as a country? Cardiff may be small but it is in Wales which people seem to ignore is actually a country and not a region of England or a suburb of Bristol and Manchester. Guess it just shows how Wales and us Welsh are perceived by our neighbours.
It amases me why people think taking away Wales only airport with international connections and moving it too England would be good for Wales as a country? Cardiff may be small but it is in Wales which people seem to ignore is actually a country and not a region of England or a suburb of Bristol and Manchester. Guess it just shows how Wales and us Welsh are perceived by our neighbours.
Behind the scenes the setup of blackbird at CWL is that some arm of CWL/WG is pretty much chartering the aircraft to run, with whatever else is included in the deal.
Do you really think the WG will invest in an Airline that's struggling that only operates what, 5% of its flights in Wales? There was uproar about buying CWL, it would be political suicide. Let's be realistic.
Airports are commercial entities, having CWL is political and patriotic, but in reality Filton is just as accessible as BRS and CWL and could've provided a much better airport for the southwest and Wales region which may have actually resulted in better links and a much busier airport. It's would still be accessible for people to fly from and work from. The tolls are going and it would be on major rail and road links. Easily accessible for Airport workers and crews.
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Providing marketing support is a way to get around government aid payments. They aren't paying QR to be there, they are paying to advertise the route.
Behind the scenes the setup of blackbird at CWL is that some arm of CWL/WG is pretty much chartering the aircraft to run, with whatever else is included in the deal.
Do you really think the WG will invest in an Airline that's struggling that only operates what, 5% of its flights in Wales? There was uproar about buying CWL, it would be political suicide. Let's be realistic.
Airports are commercial entities, having CWL is political and patriotic, but in reality Filton is just as accessible as BRS and CWL and could've provided a much better airport for the southwest and Wales region which may have actually resulted in better links and a much busier airport. It's would still be accessible for people to fly from and work from. The tolls are going and it would be on major rail and road links. Easily accessible for Airport workers and crews.
Behind the scenes the setup of blackbird at CWL is that some arm of CWL/WG is pretty much chartering the aircraft to run, with whatever else is included in the deal.
Do you really think the WG will invest in an Airline that's struggling that only operates what, 5% of its flights in Wales? There was uproar about buying CWL, it would be political suicide. Let's be realistic.
Airports are commercial entities, having CWL is political and patriotic, but in reality Filton is just as accessible as BRS and CWL and could've provided a much better airport for the southwest and Wales region which may have actually resulted in better links and a much busier airport. It's would still be accessible for people to fly from and work from. The tolls are going and it would be on major rail and road links. Easily accessible for Airport workers and crews.
Yes airports are commercial entities but they are also part of a countries transport infrastructure and international access to that country. That access would be diminished without it especially for a country like Wales.
There was an element of politics, because if Filton had been within Bristol the city could have had more influence. The town is, but the airfield site was just over the border in Gloucestershire. The old Whitchurch airport had been owned and developed by the city, but had been taken over by the Ministry postwar, who despite being a considerable funder of Bristol Aeroplane, for the Brabazon, Britannia, and other types, did not force things through.
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