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Old 20th Sep 2018, 10:08
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Originally Posted by shamrock7seal View Post
Don't Flybe have an 'excess' capacity problem right now? They are desperately trying to offload jets and consolidate for some bizarre reason. I know of no company in the world that would make money from projecting ever declining market share.
They are trimming their fleet down to about 70 aircraft so they aren't going to be able to do big expansions anywhere without sacrificing elsewhere.
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Old 20th Sep 2018, 12:39
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"Given the extreme winds yesterday flybe operations remained robust in difficult conditions. Some staff were unable to get into work on time yesterday following falling trees and blocked roads, this resulted in regrettably a few cancellations with the first wave of afternoon flights. Staff were used from standby and worked day off to minimise disruption. Lots of sick bags used yesterday shows the conditions were less than comfortable. How about a job well done guys! instead of all this negativity towards flybe and the hard working airline crews giving their best day after day. Have a nice day!"

You may well be very right in what you say. What your input does do is re-enforce my argument that airlines bring a lot of negativity upon themselves by not giving pax straight forward honest, open explanations of what the problem is. If you are just told, we haven't enough crew, what are you supposed to think? If, on the other hand, someone takes a few extra seconds to explain the background to the problem, throws a very different light on it, doesn't it?
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Old 20th Sep 2018, 16:54
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Originally Posted by PDXCWL45 View Post
They are trimming their fleet down to about 70 aircraft so they aren't going to be able to do big expansions anywhere without sacrificing elsewhere.
That's true but they have also said that any expansion would be market-led expansion instead of the capacity-led expansion introduced under French/Hammad.
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Old 21st Sep 2018, 03:03
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Capacity-led expansion is the reason for easyJet & Ryanair's success. They are forcing change. They are shaping the market. Demand/market-led expansion is a lazy way of saying that our company will evolve depending on the customer behaviour - which is very fickle and also very unpredictable. This is absolutely the opposite of what a low-cost business should be doing. I think an ownership change could be good for Flybe where they get the funding to allow them to get back into expansion mode.

Meanwhile...

Flybe seem to be spending a huge amount of time and effort pushing the female FlyShe campaign. There is no brand differentiation here. It is a hygiene factor like safety. If the best thing going for Flybe is to push the fact they have a female CEO then as a shareholder I am concerned about their future. Gender should have no relevance here. It should be about skill. easyJet never once mentioned that they had a female CEO (they didn't need to!) and never created a whole campaign around it. Flybe seem to be confused about how a true CSR campaign should be executed.
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Old 21st Sep 2018, 11:19
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https://careers.easyjet.com/pilots/a...on-initiative/
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Old 21st Sep 2018, 12:49
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I fear that capacity led expansion is exactly what got Flybe into a position of peril. They signed up to an order for up to 140 Embraer 175's, most likely in the expectation that they would sign capacity agreements with Europe's major legacy carriers much as you find in the US. The problem is that Europe wasn't really ready for this type of consolidation and Flybe couldn't get enough traction from the legacy airlines to push them into it. Union issues and state ownership prevented such moves. Only BA have been willing to hand over their regional subsidiary, but in doing so left the market entirely when they sold BAConnect.

Will Flybe expand? Sure, in time I think they will but rather than having an order book that they're obliged to take, they now have a position of deciding whether to extend or terminate leases instead depending on demand. Sure they'll need to order more aircraft to expand in future but the current position is all about creating a stable platform to support the growth and this was something that Flybe simply didn't have. There wasn't enough underpinning the plans but slowly, things seem to be turning a corner.
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Old 21st Sep 2018, 15:14
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Reversethrustset - I like how easyJet are doing it

Jobsagoodun - you make a fair point but capacity led expansion and skilled leadership are not mutually exclusive. CityJet seem to have done a superb job at signing European capacity agreements under White label ops

Now - a different subject would be who on earth thought the E175 would be a wise decision given weight, fuel burn and small jet seat mile costs.
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Old 21st Sep 2018, 15:44
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A cynic might suggest that the FlyShe campaign is topical but only getting so much airtime in the absence of any other positive messages coming out of Exeter. Although entirely laudable, it is surprising that the CEO can apparently devote so much time to this, sitting on the board of IATA and other things alongside trying to stop the rapid cash outflow and restructure a business in a difficult market. Posterity will be the judge of that one, I’m sure.
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Old 21st Sep 2018, 16:08
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To be honest I think it's being over thought somewhat. All the CEO is doing (if you read the article) is looking into the future and wondering where the industry's pilots are coming from going forward and is also using the fact that females make up such a small percentage of flightdeck worldwide so why not try and tap into that market and try and encourage more females to take up flight training. I think it's a good thing. Also all her energy clearly isn't taken up with this and the eye isn't off the ball regarding profitability, those that think so need a rethink.
As for the E175, well what can Flybe do? It was Mr French who thought it was a great idea, Saad H & COW have just inherited them and there's no way out of the deal. The E195 was the worst deal in aircraft buying/leasing history and the E175 wasn't far behind it, but Flybe are stuck with them, end of story. Saad offloaded 24 E175 orders for dash 8s with Republic Airlines, that was the only way out of the ones on order but it left 4 to obtain and those 4 have to arrive, there simply is nowhere to go with them. The reason Flybe had to expand so quickly was because they had to receive the Q400s in the Republic deal, which, let's face it if it didn't happen Flybe probably wouldn't be here today. These Q400s couldn't sit on the ground so routes had to be found to fly them and this is why Flybe are retracting as a business because in an already highly saturated European market the only viable routes were thin margin routes or an increase in frequency on current good performing routes. This still leaves Flybe with more aircraft than they want and the hand back and reduction in fleet is a slow process but at least it saved it's backside. The restructuring clearly needs to be done before the cash runs out and on that note the financial figures are starting to bear fruit which hopefully we'll see in the next set of results due out soon.
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Old 21st Sep 2018, 17:38
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There have been far worse leasing deals in history. Perhaps not Flybe’s history but definitely elsewhere.

And I think the jury is still out on the restructuring at Flybe. Revenue showed positive numbers but as growth in costs far outstripped the revenue growth then the “fruit” is still very much yet to harvest.
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Old 21st Sep 2018, 19:25
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Albert Hall, you state the obvious and yes, maybe there have been worse deals worldwide, it's a flippant comment I've heard from the powers that be to emphasise how bad it was, try not to hang your hat on every single comment.
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Old 3rd Oct 2018, 11:49
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Does anyone know when they’ll release the flights after mid June for sale TIA��
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Old 3rd Oct 2018, 14:04
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Originally Posted by Laughing Frog View Post
Does anyone know when they’ll release the flights after mid June for sale TIA��
It's usually very end of October into early November.
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Old 15th Oct 2018, 17:22
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Summer 2019

Understand 2019 the rest of the timetable will be out in the next week or two. I don't think many new routes just extra flights or exe to Paris up to 13w. Plus amsterdam. edincould get extra flights if they keep them happy!?
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Old 16th Oct 2018, 10:03
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Summer 2019

I highly doubt any new routes at all in 2019. An interview with Flybe management (sorry can't remember the individuals name) in this months Airliner World magazine states that BE will in fact be dropping a number of routes compared to summer 2018. The same interview also states that domestic flying will remain the core business supported by a few international routes.

BE still very much in right sizing mode whilst it tries to restructure and focus on where it sits in the UK aviation industry.
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Old 16th Oct 2018, 10:29
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Originally Posted by GayFriendly View Post
I highly doubt any new routes at all in 2019. An interview with Flybe management (sorry can't remember the individuals name) in this months Airliner World magazine states that BE will in fact be dropping a number of routes compared to summer 2018. The same interview also states that domestic flying will remain the core business supported by a few international routes.

BE still very much in right sizing mode whilst it tries to restructure and focus on where it sits in the UK aviation industry.
Guess we'll find out this week or next!
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Old 16th Oct 2018, 13:51
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Originally Posted by PDXCWL45 View Post
Guess we'll find out this week or next!
I am looking forward. While I expect the total number of routes to drop, there will be possibly a small number of new routes. For example in Cardiff and if they base a third aircraft on the Isle of Man.
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Old 16th Oct 2018, 14:04
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executive changes

In July it had been announced that Sir Timothy (Timo) Anderson will replace Luke Farajallah as the COO on 15 October. Luke to stay with Flybe until the end of October. He is still listed on the flybe management team but his linked in account says that he is Chairman at TARCG.

What changed on the relevant flybe website is that the CIO Peter Hauptvogel disappeared. And a new face Rob Pendle is now listed who is not a replacement for the CIO but CTO. Both changes have not been announced.

The only announcement today that I found is that Glenn Torpy has been appointed as external chair of Flybe's safety and security committee.

I am a bit puzzled....
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Old 16th Oct 2018, 15:56
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Originally Posted by limited_sight View Post
I am looking forward. While I expect the total number of routes to drop, there will be possibly a small number of new routes. For example in Cardiff and if they base a third aircraft on the Isle of Man.
Fingers crossed they've got more planned for Cardiff !
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Old 16th Oct 2018, 15:57
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Originally Posted by limited_sight View Post
I am looking forward. While I expect the total number of routes to drop, there will be possibly a small number of new routes. For example in Cardiff and if they base a third aircraft on the Isle of Man.
Apparently there has also been talks with City of Derry Airport in the past few weeks regarding potentially taking up the PSO to STN next year and 2 other routes. Some more details supposedly should arrive in the coming weeks. This comes from a “Trusted source” who has provided some details which have came to pass in the past.
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