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Old 10th May 2020, 08:50
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if you look at Tripadvisor. As always, not down to the crews, but the people who implemented policies or in charge over the years but....

Out of 8146 passengers giving feedback, 44% said flybe was average, poor or terrible.

25% said terrible.

It is a snapshot but a general snapshot that gives the proof that customer service management at Exeter was something they were completely incompetent at.



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Old 11th May 2020, 06:54
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You could also say they needed a CEO with a media personality.
At the time Molly and Stellio were the life and soul of the party
Unfortunately Flybe had the two drinks and staring at the floor wondering what was going wrong leader
Then replaced by someone who baked a cake with a soggy bottom and covered it in icing.
Media played a big part in its downfall.
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Old 11th May 2020, 10:12
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Originally Posted by Startledgrapefruit View Post
Media played a big part in its downfall.
Inconsequential compared to the long-standing inability generate profit.


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Old 11th May 2020, 11:08
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Originally Posted by speedrestriction View Post
Inconsequential compared to the long-standing inability generate profit.
True
But once SKY poos got the leak bookings dropped
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Old 11th May 2020, 12:54
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Flybe had been in trouble for about 10 years. In the very best years, they made a profit of 1% of turnover. In plenty of years, they made a loss of significantly more than 1% of turnover. BA by contrast in good years make a profit of 10% of turnover

There's only so much in losses that suppliers, lenders and investors will tolerate before goodwill eventually runs out
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Old 13th May 2020, 08:12
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Originally Posted by airsouthwest View Post
Yeah but Flybe is a different business model to British Airways, Flybe is/was a regional airline, if you take a look across the world, most regional airlines have thin margins, low wages and high turnover of staff. On the whole the whole operating 3 different types of aircraft, one of which is more expensive to lease than a larger a320 really just shows why flybe's margins took a hit. The sad thing is that only 10 days before Flybe folded, they had finally got down to their aspired two type fleet of Dash 8-400s and E175s, maybe if things had been managed better, they had a bit more cash flow and a little longer then they might have weathered this storm.
I doubt very that they would have weathered this storm.
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Old 13th May 2020, 08:34
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I agree. Most believe it was just a matter of when. Coronavirus or HMG was not the problem causing of the downfall of flybe.

EY were marketing the administration as a going concern. They already have taken the next step down from that and iMHO it will be soon when they announce a further step down to say that it is a liquidation exercise.

I can only assume the offers EY had for the company were chancers at unacceptably low or asset strippers trying to the advantage of the situation. Personally, i believe realistic offers would be for asset stripping but of course could be totally wrong.

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Old 15th May 2020, 18:34
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Other issues seemed to by flying from the wrong airports, or airports closer to larger ones, for example Durham Tees when most people would fly from Newcastle Int.
Out of these two airports, Flybe mainly flew from NCL to SOU and EXT year round, they only flew to JER seasonally from MME. The rest of the MME operation was T3 / Eastern.
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Old 19th May 2020, 14:34
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Looks like it's landing at Oslo Torp. Return to lessor?
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Old 19th May 2020, 16:25
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Looks like it's landing at Oslo Torp
Believe Wideroe have DHC8 maintenance there.
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Old 19th May 2020, 18:17
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FR24 states it landed at Skien, more likely Sandjeford. Wideroe have a maintenance hangar there.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/a...-ecoi#2486f267



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Old 19th May 2020, 18:18
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I see Cyrus are in the hot seat to buy Virgin Australia...
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Old 22nd May 2020, 15:27
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G-JECX has departed IOM for the final time. Heading to Maastricht.
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Old 23rd May 2020, 14:18
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Have the simulators already gone back to FSI FAB now the academy is sold.

Be interesting to know how much the building was bought for as the article says It sold for Ďa fractioní of the £12m it cost to build.







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Old 23rd May 2020, 14:56
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Flybe Academy goes into public ownership

Link above probably has as close to the answer as you might get publicly.
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Originally Posted by jamestkirk View Post
Have the simulators already gone back to FSI FAB now the academy is sold.

Be interesting to know how much the building was bought for as the article says It sold for ‘a fraction’ of the £12m it cost to build.

The Embraer Sim, was dismantled and packed away and sent away within about 4 days of the company going out of business. The Dash Sim lasted until about the end of March I believe, before it was dismantled and sent back to FSI at Farnborough. I believe the Embraer Sim is going to FSI at Paris.

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Old 1st Jun 2020, 15:38
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Dash Eight G-JECY over London at FL250 (ex Manchester) this afternoon June 1st 2020.
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Dash Eight G-JECY over London at FL250 (ex Manchester) this afternoon June 1st 2020.
As airports start to open up, they will want shot of the Q400ís pronto!
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I suppose itís difficult to get positioning pilots positioning about.

i would guess a skeleton amount of employees are in EXT but once the boarders open EY will sell all and shut up shop.

Hopefully when itís all over there will be some investigation into what I read in one article called the years of Ďmismanagement and misadventureí. In my opinion itís important so the people responsible donít get the chance to destroy another company and in by doing so put thousands out of work.

The ex staff are entitled to know the chain of events.




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