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I think most of us would agree that from the point of the IPO, successive leadership and management teams made a number of decisions that adversely impacted on the ability for the business to survive. Following the acquisition by Connect, Flybe was making some significant improvements and in my opinion, had the best leadership team in over a decade but sadly, insufficient funding to effect a full turnaround of the business.
Having said that, even if Flybe had obtained the much discussed £100m Govt loan - I think it would have likely succumbed to Covid-19 anyway.
Having said that, even if Flybe had obtained the much discussed £100m Govt loan - I think it would have likely succumbed to Covid-19 anyway.
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Yes, admittedly I don’t know about the last CEO but people did seem to like him.
Just thought about another corker. Not sure how much it cost but lighting up the BHX control tower. Great use of funds for a pointless exercise.And whilst your losing millions, spend hundreds of thousands on new uniform. I can only imagine strategy meetings looked like chimpanzees round a table throwing their own excrement at each other and calling it a plan.
Just thought about another corker. Not sure how much it cost but lighting up the BHX control tower. Great use of funds for a pointless exercise.And whilst your losing millions, spend hundreds of thousands on new uniform. I can only imagine strategy meetings looked like chimpanzees round a table throwing their own excrement at each other and calling it a plan.
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With the demise of Flybe Engineering Aviation Services, who will look after the Dash 8 fleet whilst awaiting new operators? Surely the administrators won't continue paying the skeleton staff from FEAS for the amount of time which will be required?
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Originally Posted by Clarke Griswald
With the demise of Flybe Engineering Aviation Services, who will look after the Dash 8 fleet whilst awaiting new operators? Surely the administrators won't continue paying the skeleton staff from FEAS for the amount of time which will be required?
But I doubt the leasing companies are in a rush to do anything. I’m not exactly sure there’s a queue of people looking for Dash8s at the moment...
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I wonder if there wasn't much more important things going on at the moment the press would be interested on how poorly managed flybe was. old news now i guess as the airline is gone forever.
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Originally Posted by jamestkirk
I wonder if there wasn't much more important things going on at the moment the press would be interested on how poorly managed flybe was. old news now i guess as the airline is gone forever.
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I saw this yesterday. This is a report from the CAA date 16/04/20 regarding operating and route licence.
What was going on at flybe??
27. CMG also relied on the provisional suspension of the AOC to submit that the CAA was obliged pursuant to Article 9(5) of the EU Regulation also immediately to take steps to suspend or revoke the OLs and RLs. It stated that one of the purposes of the EU Regulation was to ensure that the financial health of an airline did not adversely affect safety. Since SARG had identified serious breaches of safety regulations which led it to make a provisional suspension of the AOC, it followed that the OL and RLs should also be suspended or revoked. There was no prospect of Flybe remedying the safety concerns which had been identified since it lacked the manpower, cash and necessary resources to do so.
What was going on at flybe??
27. CMG also relied on the provisional suspension of the AOC to submit that the CAA was obliged pursuant to Article 9(5) of the EU Regulation also immediately to take steps to suspend or revoke the OLs and RLs. It stated that one of the purposes of the EU Regulation was to ensure that the financial health of an airline did not adversely affect safety. Since SARG had identified serious breaches of safety regulations which led it to make a provisional suspension of the AOC, it followed that the OL and RLs should also be suspended or revoked. There was no prospect of Flybe remedying the safety concerns which had been identified since it lacked the manpower, cash and necessary resources to do so.
27. CMG also relied on the provisional suspension of the AOC to submit that the CAA was obliged pursuant to Article 9(5) of the EU Regulation also immediately to take steps to suspend or revoke the OLs and RLs. It stated that one of the purposes of the EU Regulation was to ensure that the financial health of an airline did not adversely affect safety. Since SARG had identified serious breaches of safety regulations which led it to make a provisional suspension of the AOC, it followed that the OL and RLs should also be suspended or revoked. There was no prospect of Flybe remedying the safety concerns which had been identified since it lacked the manpower, cash and necessary resources to do so.
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
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It’s an interesting read. It looks like some sort of audit was done by the CAA and they found the safety breaches. Doubt if we will ever find out what they were. Rightly or wrongly that’s how I read it.
They (management) had a captive market a royally buggered it up. Now it’s clear the CAA didn’t have much faith in them either.
They (management) had a captive market a royally buggered it up. Now it’s clear the CAA didn’t have much faith in them either.
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
Difficult to say without seeing the whole doc, but could this be as straigtforward as saying that once the company ceased trading, it could no longer keep it's a/c airworthy?. Didn't BE stop operating before tha AOC was pulled, rather than they stopped because the AOC was suspended?
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Originally Posted by Buster the Bear
Contracts are out to ferry all the Q400s into Europe for store. They will join the large number of LGW airframes already parked up.
