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Old 12th Mar 2020, 12:12
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Originally Posted by Set 1013 View Post
Airsouthwest, the administrators are keeping a small number of flight ops staff employed to keep the AOC running. They have also kept some flybe engineers on to maintain the aircraft until they leave or otherwise.
It is pretty standard that you keep a certain number of people from the old business on. Bumped into old work colleague who worked for a now defunct business and he kept on for 9 months after business folded. Mind you every day was going in playing cards, chatting and on the internet as liquidators were seeking a buyer and need his expertise to show them around.
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Old 12th Mar 2020, 14:09
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Previously I had thought that part of the intention of the flybe owners was to keep going until they gained grandfather rights over the Heathrow IAG remedy slots. A couple of posters a few weeks ago pointed out reasons why my theory didn't work. (Then of course reality set in and flybe closed down anyway.)

Now there's confirmation from ACL that the flybe remedy slots have reverted to BA: https://www.acl-uk.org/wp-content/up...-S20-BE-BA.pdf.

With the announced suspension of the 80/20 rule due to coronavirus, BA won't actually have to operate these slots in S2020.
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Old 12th Mar 2020, 15:57
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Sad seeing a Flybe Dash 8 parked up at LHR this morning amongst the Dreamliners and Airbus aircraft.
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Old 13th Mar 2020, 12:15
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Its a big thumbs up to state aid from the EU. Member states are being encouraged to take action as they see fit to keep essential sectors, such as transport, operating.

All too late for Flybe.





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Old 13th Mar 2020, 19:50
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Ignoring the French regional routes, has anybody been keeping score of which flyBe routes have been picked up and which are still vacant - don't remember any of the international ones? BHX seems quiet?

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Old 16th Mar 2020, 08:27
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Exeter

Exeter have just three scheduled flights a day now. Isles of Scilly, Jersey, Geurnsey.

Is that, plus a bit of cargo and flight training, enough to fund an ATC and AFRS?

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Old 16th Mar 2020, 11:08
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Originally Posted by medod View Post
Is that, plus a bit of cargo and flight training, enough to fund an ATC and AFRS?
Guess this will be the big question for most if not all airports going forward now, what each one has outside of commercial operations to keep them afloat, worrying times indeed.
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Old 16th Mar 2020, 18:43
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Originally Posted by tregeseal View Post
We have had staff briefings about cost cutting and restructure, everything is in scope. Tuesdays no scheduled flights, Cobham rotary training, SAR and air ambulance only some days. Very worrying times here.
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Think you have forgotten your only based airline at Newquay. Skybus are running daily scheduled flights to IOS out of Newquay.
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Old 16th Mar 2020, 22:42
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Originally Posted by medod View Post
Exeter have just three scheduled flights a day now. Isles of Scilly, Jersey, Geurnsey.

Is that, plus a bit of cargo and flight training, enough to fund an ATC and AFRS?

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Thats all they used to have in the late 80s early nineties
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Old 16th Mar 2020, 23:54
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Originally Posted by bmaviscount View Post
Thats all they used to have in the late 80s early nineties
Yes, but they expanded to cover rheir main customer who has now gone to the wall.
What happens to the people whose jobs were created by the need to serve Flybe?
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Old 17th Mar 2020, 14:39
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"Flybe" MRO

A good friend of mine worked on the maintenance side and this has now gone public:

We are the former Flybe aviation engineers of the South West, and we believe there is a future in keeping the engineering, maintenance & repair services alive.

We believe we CAN fix it!

Over 300 skilled aviation engineers available in Exeter, Devon to get started now! Experienced in Line, C-check and A-check maintenance.

Proven track record of on time hand backs and a long list of satisfied customers.

Establishing a maintenance and repair operation in the SW would ensure jobs for the current skilled workforce and secure livelihoods of their families. Over and above, it would allow for training and apprenticeship programs to continue and secure the future skilled engineers of the SW!

Please share to support our efforts!
​​​​​They really want a make a go of this and quite rightly too

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...0&id=775449269
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Old 17th Mar 2020, 14:46
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I was passing through MAN yesterday and noticed that there are about eight or nine FlyBe aircraft parked up. Has no one claimed them back? It seems a shame to see them sitting there with trucks or steps blocking their push back. Id hope theyre being looked after by maintenance engineers somewhere. Not the best time of year to be constantly parked up Id imagine.
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Old 17th Mar 2020, 15:03
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Originally Posted by EISNN View Post
I was passing through MAN yesterday and noticed that there are about eight or nine FlyBe aircraft parked up. Has no one claimed them back? It seems a shame to see them sitting there with trucks or steps blocking their push back. Id hope theyre being looked after by maintenance engineers somewhere. Not the best time of year to be constantly parked up Id imagine.
I think there will be a lot more than 8 or 9 flyBe's parked up soon - are you watching the news?!
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Old 17th Mar 2020, 16:56
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I was passing through MAN yesterday and noticed that there are about eight or nine FlyBe aircraft parked up
Apparently the 6 Dashes at SOU have "had the cobwebs blown off" today.
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Old 17th Mar 2020, 18:37
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According to Jethros there are currently 4 E170s and 7 Q400s at Manchester. Until landing fees and other charges due to the airport are paid I don’t think they will be going anywhere.
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Old 18th Mar 2020, 00:41
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Who owns them? Were they leased or owned by FlyBe? Or is it a mix?
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Old 18th Mar 2020, 06:58
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I understand that G-PRPH will ferry from Heathrow to Exeter this afternoon (March 18th 2020).
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Old 18th Mar 2020, 07:29
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According to Jethros there are currently 4 E170s and 7 Q400s at Manchester. Until landing fees and other charges due to the airport are paid I dont think they will be going anywhere.
You would have thought that due to the current circumstances and also the demise of Flybe that those airport charges would be waived. Not just Manchester Airport but all airport's. I'm talking about landing fees more than anything else.
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Old 18th Mar 2020, 09:31
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Originally Posted by Sotonsean View Post
You would have thought that due to the current circumstances and also the demise of Flybe that those airport charges would be waived. Not just Manchester Airport but all airport's. I'm talking about landing fees more than anything else.
Why should they? Better an unsecured creditor, than not at all. And, depending on the legal situation, which I am not qualified to comment upon, they may even enjoy some security as a result of having possession of the aircraft.
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Old 18th Mar 2020, 09:57
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Originally Posted by bricquebec View Post
Why should they? Better an unsecured creditor, than not at all. And, depending on the legal situation, which I am not qualified to comment upon, they may even enjoy some security as a result of having possession of the aircraft.
Quoting from my original post, "I'm talking about landing fees more than anything else".

Landing fees are easy to be scrapped from the debt due, any other fees can be and should be paid. By the time the creditors are finished with winding up Flybe there will be absolutely nothing left for the employees and this is always the case when a company goes bust.

Trying to get such things such as landing fees paid from a bankrupt airline is just pure greed in my opinion. I know that it's the norm in these circumstances but the aircraft are where they are, there not costing the airport much if anything. The company's gone and the airport's wrap up even more debt on the creditors, it makes me sick.

I know it's business at the end of day and I totally understand that but it annoys me whenever a company goes bust there's never anything left in the pot to pay the former employees. I know I've been there.
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