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Old 15th Aug 2018, 13:25
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Originally Posted by Wolfgang5150 View Post
I hope its not Easterns commercial director doing the infiltration, someone should warn Mr Bristow!
Dont worry, he’s long gone! And not before time.........took long enough mind!
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Old 15th Aug 2018, 17:02
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Thanks for the info Atlantic, it comes as no surprise really.
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Old 26th Aug 2018, 08:48
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I heard that the 2 x E170 aircraft are currently planned to leave the fleet next year. I wonder where they will end up?
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Old 26th Aug 2018, 09:24
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I heard that the 2 x E170 aircraft are currently planned to leave the fleet next year. I wonder where they will end up?
Some might say as far away as possible!
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Old 26th Aug 2018, 17:33
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I think that the deal has already been done and they will leave before the end of the year, not 100% sure on that though.
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Old 26th Aug 2018, 22:50
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Originally Posted by shamrock7seal View Post
What has happened to domestic UK aviation?

Flybe is continually loss making
Eastern is cost cutting so much it's now basically not working operationally anymore
Flybmi is limping along but doesn't seem to know what it wants to be or do and there is no expansion on the horizon
BA Cityflyer is London centric and seems to be struggling a little with its (temporary?) UK regional weekend expansion
BA domestic is static or declining
easyJet domestic is limited to big regional airports
Aurigny is loss making
Blue islands is basically Flybe now
Stobart Air is ... well

Loganair seems to be the only airline that believes it has a bright future with some growth potential

No other airlines?
The double whammy of APD doesn’t help either, with evermore sensors required on aircraft to meet RNP requirements flying elderly SAAB’s or Jetstream aircraft in the regional environment expensive to stay compliant, the market will continue to polarise between Loco to somewhere nearby or business aircraft/helicopters for point to point, but relying on a Loco to keep the link and short transfer times to your final destination is risky ask anyone who bought near Granada but now has travel via Malaga.

PSO contracts can help but these are politically sensitive when hospitals are being closed, but there is no doubt that some parts of the UK are becoming no go areas for certain types of businesses because of poor transport links, Cumbria, East Yorkshire, Lincolnshire and much of the South West, one only has to look at the train cancellation and strikes this past few months.

There is no easy answer, young pilots will be soaked up by the big Loco’s and are now paid more than Captains at many regional airlines, the equipment is better, the flying can be more interesting and most Loco airlines you’ll have a more respectful relationship with your employer.
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Old 27th Aug 2018, 09:58
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Originally Posted by ptr120 I heard that the 2 x E170 aircraft are currently planned to leave the fleet next year. I wonder where they will end up?
Some might say as far away as possible!

I know a man with a Stihl saw! Might be handy for most of the fleet.
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Old 28th Aug 2018, 08:03
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SAAB 2000 Fleet Status

Can anyone comment on if these three SAAB 2000s have left the Eastern fleet?

006 GCDKA at Örebro since 21 August 2018 (last commercial service 09 June 2018)
009 GCDEA at Örebro since 04 April 2018 (last commercial service 27 March 2018)
023 GCFLV at Örebro since 13 June 2018 (last commercial service 27 June 2017)
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Old 5th Sep 2018, 18:10
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I noticed HB-IZT, a former SkyWork Airlines Saab 2000, left Bern tonight and landed at Humberside. This used to be G-CDEB at Eastern and was only delivered to SkyWork in April of this year. I'm guessing they leased it from Eastern then and it got returned? Or how should I look at this?
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Old 5th Sep 2018, 18:20
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Originally Posted by Avnu View Post
I noticed HB-IZT, a former SkyWork Airlines Saab 2000, left Bern tonight and landed at Humberside. This used to be G-CDEB at Eastern and was only delivered to SkyWork in April of this year. I'm guessing they leased it from Eastern then and it got returned? Or how should I look at this?
Yes, I read somewhere too that it was only leased.
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Old 5th Sep 2018, 23:10
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Originally Posted by shamrock7seal View Post
What has happened to domestic UK aviation?

Flybe is continually loss making
Eastern is cost cutting so much it's now basically not working operationally anymore
Flybmi is limping along but doesn't seem to know what it wants to be or do and there is no expansion on the horizon
BA Cityflyer is London centric and seems to be struggling a little with its (temporary?) UK regional weekend expansion
BA domestic is static or declining
easyJet domestic is limited to big regional airports
Aurigny is loss making
Blue islands is basically Flybe now
Stobart Air is ... well

Loganair seems to be the only airline that believes it has a bright future with some growth potential

No other airlines?

Its only going to get worse sadly, with the growth a of rail and longer, faster trains like the Intercity Express Train coming into service in the last year and Crossrail on the horizon making Paddington more attractive for those in the South West and Bristol, I doubt aviation will grow much anymore. People these days are generally lazy, its easier for most people to get to a train station, hop on a train, possibly change onto another one and go to their destination, rather than get to an airport, check in, wait for ages, then get on-board, fly, then deboard, leave the airport, and find a way from your arrival airport to your destination, where as most railway station go within 30 minutes walk of town centres.

The Flybe fastest way to London, was only 10 minutes faster than the train, that was without CrossRail and many other improvements once these come in the Flybe Exeter to London route will be 15 minutes slower minimum.

In relation to other airlines, well BMI Regional is just appalling, I went for an interview with them once, It felt like a waste of time driving to the airport as the interview was on skype, they clearly hadn't done any research into me or the other candidates nor looked at my CV, nearly everything possible heavy maintenance etc is done abroad because its cheaper. After a few minutes with them I was ready to walk out but stayed only to be polite, needless to say I won't ever apply for a job with them again.
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Old 6th Sep 2018, 07:26
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People these days are generally lazy, its easier for most people to get to a train station, hop on a train, possibly change onto another one and go to their destination, rather than get to an airport, check in, wait for ages, then get on-board, fly, then deboard, leave the airport, and find a way from your arrival airport to your destination, where as most railway station go within 30 minutes walk of town centres.
Not sure if people are lazy. Maybe they are simply smart - based on your description of the differences between the two modes of transportation.
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Old 6th Sep 2018, 10:37
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To come back on a few of your points airsouthwest:

- Yes the IET's are coming on the rails, but they will only improve journey times between Wales and the SW and London by a few minutes, compared to the 40 year-old HST's they are replacing. This is at least in part due to the infrastructure, especially in Devon and Cornwall, where the main lines are bendy and hilly (by railway standards, with some of the steepest "banks" in the UK) and the cost (and environmental impacts) of fixing that mean it's never going to happen.

- Crossrail will not speed up long-distance rail travel, but will be great if, for example, you live in Maidenhead and commute to Canary Wharf.

- which Flybe route were you talking about? If EXT-LCY, it takes around 50 mins on average, which is around 1.5 hours quicker than the fastest train to Paddington (as far as I know).

Bit off-topic I know, but interesting as debate about the future of domestic air travel.
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Old 10th Sep 2018, 18:32
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Heard Eastern are looking at two more ATR 72s and some 42s any truth in this ?
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Old 9th Oct 2018, 16:34
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Eastern are pulling their ABZ to SYY flights

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...lands-45801943

Anyone know anything about the 2 aircraft damaged in ground accidents?
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Old 10th Oct 2018, 13:57
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What's up at Eastern Airways? There have been some allusions on the Aberdeen and Newcastle threads (questions about the future of the ABZ-LCY route, as it is operated by T3; cutbacks on NCL-ABZ and NCL-CWL due to a 'review of operations'), but no background on what the general situation is...
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Old 11th Oct 2018, 01:29
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mentioned above.. basically not enough airframes at present

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Old 11th Oct 2018, 08:10
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Nor crews presumably...
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Old 11th Oct 2018, 12:16
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Originally Posted by oapilot View Post
Nor crews presumably...
Most probably the main reason unfortunately.

With a number of JS41's parked up at HUY as well as a returned Saab2000 from Skywork and the end of the BA contract on the Isle of Man, surely it can't be an aircraft shortage issue?

It's a shame as the Flybe franchise could really be offering Eastern perfect opportunities to open up and sell new routes and destinations with the assets they already have. Particularly with their JS41 fleet, they should be able to use these aircraft to their full potential on more niche UK domestic and shorter flights to/from the continent. On the flip-side i know they do well on the charter front, but not the best of utilisation.

Crewing issues aside, is there a possibility that those parked JS41's will return into regular service or have Eastern decided to use them as spares / standby aircraft?
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Old 11th Oct 2018, 20:16
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Originally Posted by Cazza_fly View Post
[Lack of crews...] Most probably the main reason unfortunately.
Yeah, I was thinking that. LCY-IOM and NCL-BHD-IOM dropped recently so presumably those aircraft at least are available . A shame - on the one occasion I flew with them I was impressed.
From reading this thread I'm not sure that all crews feel the same though...
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