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E70 - Aircraft leaded to BA at LGW
BA have been forced to cancel a number of flights from LGW in recent weeks that had been planned to be operated by a T3 E70. The flights should have been operated by G-CIXW. Over the last week or so this aircraft has instead been used to op ex LCY for BACF. Resulting in a few flight cancellations. Flights planned to be op by the E70 this weekend will now be operated by a PrivatAir 737. Does anyone know what is the reason for all the disruption??
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Eastern have failed to operate their entire IOM-LCY-IOM schedule today, three rotations. Even by their dismal performance standards, this is unprecedented. One has to wonder how long BA, and to a degree, the IOM authorities will tolerate this fiasco.
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Eastern has had technical issues with both E170s. G-CIXV which was operating for BA CityFlyer from LCY went tech on 10/7 and positioned to Amsterdam, presumably for attention. It is now back at LCY having returned today.
G-CIXW which was at LGW positioned to London City on 11/7 to cover for G-CIXV, however it went tech the following day! According to FR24 it positioned to Lisbon, again presumably for attention.
For information Eastern also seem to have a lot of crew or technical issues with the Isle of Man based Saab 2000 G-CIEC which operates for BACF at present, with a number of cancelled flights.
G-CIXW which was at LGW positioned to London City on 11/7 to cover for G-CIXV, however it went tech the following day! According to FR24 it positioned to Lisbon, again presumably for attention.
For information Eastern also seem to have a lot of crew or technical issues with the Isle of Man based Saab 2000 G-CIEC which operates for BACF at present, with a number of cancelled flights.
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I notice that a Privatair 737-700 is showing as operating a number of flights from LGW previously planned to be operated by the T3 using a E70. I have heard that BA cancelled the lease agreement the T3 On flights ex LGW due to reliability problems.
Can anyone confirm if this is true?.
Can anyone confirm if this is true?.
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Originally Posted by BAladdy
I notice that a Privatair 737-700 is showing as operating a number of flights from LGW previously planned to be operated by the T3 using a E70. I have heard that BA cancelled the lease agreement the T3 On flights ex LGW due to reliability problems.
Can anyone confirm if this is true?.
Can anyone confirm if this is true?.
I think it was discussed on the Gatwick thread if not I've read it on airliners.net.
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Originally Posted by BAladdy
BACF’s IOM services were until 9th June operated by G-CDKA which was painted in full BA colours... Has this aircraft been removed from service or is it undergoing maintainence?
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Originally Posted by humbersidemotor
Aircraft in BA colours outside eastern hangar at HUY yesterday
Originally Posted by ATIS31
What's with all the cancellations lately to and from Newcastle and Stornoway among other places cancelled ?
No BACF IOM work after the end of this month, crews being TUPEd over to new operator and both E170s off to operate in Australia in the next couple of months or so.
Not great news for T3.
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Originally Posted by Atlantic Explorer
I would put my money on ‘no crew’ judging by the amount that have left/leaving for better jobs.
No BACF IOM work after the end of this month, crews being TUPEd over to new operator and both E170s off to operate in Australia in the next couple of months or so.
Not great news for T3.
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What has happened to domestic UK aviation?
Flybe is continually loss making
Eastern is cost cutting so much it's now basically not working operationally anymore
Flybmi is limping along but doesn't seem to know what it wants to be or do and there is no expansion on the horizon
BA Cityflyer is London centric and seems to be struggling a little with its (temporary?) UK regional weekend expansion
BA domestic is static or declining
easyJet domestic is limited to big regional airports
Aurigny is loss making
Blue islands is basically Flybe now
Stobart Air is ... well
Loganair seems to be the only airline that believes it has a bright future with some growth potential
No other airlines?
Flybe is continually loss making
Eastern is cost cutting so much it's now basically not working operationally anymore
Flybmi is limping along but doesn't seem to know what it wants to be or do and there is no expansion on the horizon
BA Cityflyer is London centric and seems to be struggling a little with its (temporary?) UK regional weekend expansion
BA domestic is static or declining
easyJet domestic is limited to big regional airports
Aurigny is loss making
Blue islands is basically Flybe now
Stobart Air is ... well
Loganair seems to be the only airline that believes it has a bright future with some growth potential
No other airlines?
The simple answer is that the low cost business model was never going to be workable in a short haul low volume environment, it has just taken a while for everything to fall apart under the pressure. It only works for Southwest, Ryanair, Easyjet and co because they are able to 'pile high and sell cheap' serve a huge market like the whole US or Europe. As we have seen recently it is not all good for Ryanair because they have pushed the principle too far in the endless and self defeating pursuit of ever increasing profit.
The travelling public have been fed the myth that a safe and reliable airline service can be provided at bargain bucket prices and what is happening to regional airlines is the inevitable failure of that idea. There are many contributing factors but I just wanted to make this one point.
The travelling public have been fed the myth that a safe and reliable airline service can be provided at bargain bucket prices and what is happening to regional airlines is the inevitable failure of that idea. There are many contributing factors but I just wanted to make this one point.
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Shamrock, just stop and consider how many ASM (Available Seat Miles) a Ryanair crew fly in a shift; then compare that to an Eastern crew and you will probably find its a multiple of 50x. Then consider that Eastern might be only half full - so 100x. Now work through ALL the other line items on the operating budget, in unit cost terms, and you can see why Ryanair fares are comparatively so cheap and it makes money, but Eastern fares are so much higher and it doesn't. Simple economics. No amount of clever strategy can offset the vast imbalance. The travelling public just assumes that high fares translates to high profits for the airlines. Not so.
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Will be an interesting few months.
Bristow seemed to be quite happy propping things up when things started going south.
Cant imagine they will continue to prop things up when they have their own issues but they will always need the ATRs. That’s the golden goose.
Word is that senior EA staff have started to infiltrate (if that’s the right word!) the top floor of Bristow HQ in Dyce.
Bristow seemed to be quite happy propping things up when things started going south.
Cant imagine they will continue to prop things up when they have their own issues but they will always need the ATRs. That’s the golden goose.
Word is that senior EA staff have started to infiltrate (if that’s the right word!) the top floor of Bristow HQ in Dyce.
Originally Posted by Wolfgang5150
I hope its not Easterns commercial director doing the infiltration, someone should warn Mr Bristow!
