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Old 19th Apr 2018, 16:58
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Surely that would tell them they need premium as standard across the fleet?

Better to have premium consistently on those routes that are higher yielding rather than having it across all routes surely?
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Old 19th Apr 2018, 19:35
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Originally Posted by SamYeager View Post
Better to have premium consistently on those routes that are higher yielding rather than having it across all routes surely?
The point being that if TCX want to build a brand and a long term long-haul product, they are going to have to do much better than what they are currently doing.
The key is consistency.
All successful airlines offer a consistent product:
At one end of the scale the likes of Singapore etc deliver a reasonably consistent product
At the other end of the scale, Ryanair and Easyjet also deliver a consistent product and I admire them for that. I know exactly what I'll be getting for my money.
With TCX - it's pure guesswork.

The thing is, if you do get TCX PE across the Atlantic it's actually a very good product. Why they don't want to roll it out consistently across the long haul network is beyond me
They have the benefit of new entry players right now but I'm wondering how many people, having experienced the 'delights' of Air Tanker would come back for a second bite of the cherry.

If all of this does fall apart in the next few years, no doubt they will do the usual 'lack of premium demand' press release (ie it's all our fault).

I keep saying this on here because I've been flying business class out of MAN since 1992. It was true back then in the 1990s that there were lots of empty premium cabins but now on some flights it's actually unpredictable whether I'll get in if it's a short notice trip.
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Old 20th Apr 2018, 05:57
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Originally Posted by FFMAN View Post
The key is consistency.
All successful airlines offer a consistent product:
At one end of the scale the likes of Singapore etc deliver a reasonably consistent product
At the other end of the scale, Ryanair and Easyjet also deliver a consistent product and I admire them for that. I know exactly what I'll be getting for my money.
With TCX - it's pure guesswork.
Whilst I agree consistency is important, a lot of successful airlines do not offer this in terms of seating.

The difference between an old RYR B737 and a new one with the Sky interior and slim seats is night and day. Same with easyJet between A319 with old seats and A320 with Recaroís. Iíve flown EZY and RYR both in the last 36hrs in old interiors. Give me the new interiors and seats everytime please.

RYR is guesswork because you dont know in advance what will turn up in x weeks to operate you flight. EZY is a bit more straightforward to work out what youíll get

Singapore have multiple different First, Business and Economy seats in operation. Both across long haul and regional products.

It would be desireable for TCX to operate PE more consistently but like a lot of other airlines nowadays, reality is you need to be savy and check the seat map before you book.
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Old 20th Apr 2018, 15:27
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If memeory serves me right, the Air Tanker aircraft need to be kept all economy in case they are suddenly needed by the MOD for deployment.
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Old 20th Apr 2018, 16:22
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Does anyone know the whereabouts of the Smartlynx A320 due to TCX in just over a weeks time ? Most of the YL- fleet are working for easyjet still.
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Old 20th Apr 2018, 18:06
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Originally Posted by LiamNCL View Post
Does anyone know the whereabouts of the Smartlynx A320 due to TCX in just over a weeks time ? Most of the YL- fleet are working for easyjet still.
The leases are ending imminentaly before they transfer to TCX for S18. Below are dates for arrival into the bases and where they are based.

YLLCO- NCL 30.04
YLLCS- CWL 30.04
YLLCT- STN 27.05
YLLCL- BRS 30.04
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Old 20th Apr 2018, 19:10
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So based on the above...

Is Stansted to be 1x MT A321 and 1x Smart Lynx A320 for short haul ops this summer?
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Old 20th Apr 2018, 20:37
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The A321 based at STN currently is YL-LCQ from Smartlynx, though it is in full Thomas Cook livery.

I assume then that both the A320 and A321 at STN will be Smartlynx.
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Old 20th Apr 2018, 22:09
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Thanks for the info

STN is 1x A321 & 1x A320 from Smartlynx for S18
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Old 21st Apr 2018, 09:40
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Is EMA a similar set up with just wet lease aircraft ?
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Old 21st Apr 2018, 10:33
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Is EMA a similar set up with just wet lease aircraft ?
EMA next month definitely showing as A321's and operated by Avion but winter is back to Thomas Cook at the moment per the booking engine?

I assume that this has resulted in the current EMA based flight-deck getting disrupted and moving to BHX or MAN for summer? Also BHX has seen only a handful of increased flights in summer 18 and the Avion is still based so not much extra work there.

So is EMA in winter crewed by BHX or MAN crew or does the base reopen?

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Old 22nd Apr 2018, 10:41
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All pilots have been permanently removed from EMA. They have not said how it will be crewed next winter.
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Old 22nd Apr 2018, 20:25
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Heard a rumour a few months ago about so bases closing in the winter.
Newcastle i heard but still shows as based aircraft and as far as i know crew have not been told anything

Winter flights to be chartered on Jet2 aircraft or seats sold onboard there aircraft
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Old 23rd Apr 2018, 06:10
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Cant see that happening at Newcastle but there was mention on here about STN BFS EMA those were the 3 bases mentioned about becomming 3rd party.
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Old 23rd Apr 2018, 07:05
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Hope so
However newcastle is only 1 aircraft in winter and doesn't fly every day
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Old 23rd Apr 2018, 09:37
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I thought MT are more likely to do the work in house but using aircraft from the larger bases using W patterns etc
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Old 23rd Apr 2018, 09:42
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Originally Posted by HH6702 View Post
Hope so
However newcastle is only 1 aircraft in winter and doesn't fly every day
M-HRG
T-TFS
W-FUE
T-ACE
F-TFS
S-TFS
S-ACE

I think the Saturday Tenerife ends for about 6 weeks other than that it flys everyday.
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Old 23rd Apr 2018, 09:49
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The TCX certainly flies as much in the winter as the other based units at NCL, probably more.
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Old 23rd Apr 2018, 09:52
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Thomas Cook at Norwich

i am hearing whispers that a once a week flight from Norwich to Dalaman is to be operated from Norwich this summer
Does anyone know if this will be performed by the Stansted based aircraft or another
good to see them back at Norwich
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Old 23rd Apr 2018, 10:02
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB View Post
The TCX certainly flies as much in the winter as the other based units at NCL, probably more.
Thats what i was thinking , nothing more than rumours really.

Originally Posted by sparkie320 View Post
i am hearing whispers that a once a week flight from Norwich to Dalaman is to be operated from Norwich this summer
Does anyone know if this will be performed by the Stansted based aircraft or another
good to see them back at Norwich
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MT590 NWI-DLM Commences 23/05 until 03/10 and is indeed on the STN based A320 operated by Smartlynx
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