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TUI was disappointing the extra seats they announced only covered what they Ryanair and Vueling cut so not making a dent in Thomas Cook. It appears that they have bigger fish to fry than Cardiff and are just settling for higher yields. So it looks like Cardiff will be the only Thomas Cook base not to have most of the lost capacity replaced unless there is some sort of miracle still to come.
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I’m quite shocked that Ryanair have not added anything new for CWL, I would have expected to see them offer something extra to compensate the TFS loss.
Just hope things don’t go backwards for CWL after all the positive work over the last few years.....would really love to see one new airline at CWL along with most folk I guess - notably Jet2 or even Wizz UK as the bucket & spade routes would serve them so well.
Just hope things don’t go backwards for CWL after all the positive work over the last few years.....would really love to see one new airline at CWL along with most folk I guess - notably Jet2 or even Wizz UK as the bucket & spade routes would serve them so well.
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I’m quite shocked that Ryanair have not added anything new for CWL, I would have expected to see them offer something extra to compensate the TFS loss.
Just hope things don’t go backwards for CWL after all the positive work over the last few years.....would really love to see one new airline at CWL along with most folk I guess - notably Jet2 or even Wizz UK as the bucket & spade routes would serve them so well.
Just hope things don’t go backwards for CWL after all the positive work over the last few years.....would really love to see one new airline at CWL along with most folk I guess - notably Jet2 or even Wizz UK as the bucket & spade routes would serve them so well.
New airline wise I wouldn't hold out hope unless they can pull off an unexpected one like say SAS or Swiss or Volotea as examples, I'd expect any growth to come from the ones already serving Cardiff mainly TUI and Ryanair and KLM but maybe Loganair and Qatar and Flybe as well. The airport will likely have to take steps back to move forward again.
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I imagine (and hope to god) that CWL management are out there dangling those carrots, they did so well securing QR. Surely they must be trying to entice more from FR for starters. Jet2 would truly be amazing but guess any offering would be worth while to fill the Thomas Cook gap.
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I imagine (and hope to god) that CWL management are out there dangling those carrots, they did so well securing QR. Surely they must be trying to entice more from FR for starters. Jet2 would truly be amazing but guess any offering would be worth while to fill the Thomas Cook gap.
I do think that the airport will concentrate on TUI to fill the TCX gap, hopefully they can persuade them to base a 4th aircraft in 2021.
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Are TUI fully committed though ? Only 30,000 extra seats next year but still not as busy as this year even with no competition from Thomas Cook. TUI added loads more capacity to other UK Airports for Summer 2020 compared to CWL. Not that I’m rubbishing their capacity but surely they would have seen the potential to literally rule CWL next year......I don’t know, maybe there is more to come from TUI who knows.
Then there is Virgin Connect.....what do they have up their sleeves for CWL next year....just hope they don’t reduce capacity anymore and maybe even add the VRN as it can be done on the Dash 8
Then there is Virgin Connect.....what do they have up their sleeves for CWL next year....just hope they don’t reduce capacity anymore and maybe even add the VRN as it can be done on the Dash 8
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Are TUI fully committed though ? Only 30,000 extra seats next year but still not as busy as this year even with no competition from Thomas Cook. TUI added loads more capacity to other UK Airports for Summer 2020 compared to CWL. Not that I’m rubbishing their capacity but surely they would have seen the potential to literally rule CWL next year......I don’t know, maybe there is more to come from TUI who knows.
Then there is Virgin Connect.....what do they have up their sleeves for CWL next year....just hope they don’t reduce capacity anymore and maybe even add the VRN as it can be done on the Dash 8
Then there is Virgin Connect.....what do they have up their sleeves for CWL next year....just hope they don’t reduce capacity anymore and maybe even add the VRN as it can be done on the Dash 8
As for Virgin Connect/Flybe I suspect it'll just be the same as winter with maybe a few more CDG flights and Belfast flights and hopefully Verona!
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Flybe Summer 2020 will be released tomorrow but flights have been onsale on skyscanner and this is what i was able to find out. Just a disclaimer that if it's not 100% accurate i'll ammend tomorrow or Friday.
Edinburgh 18 weekly
Dublin 18 weekly
Belfast City 7 weekly
Paris CDG 7 weekly
Jersey 5 weekly
Cork 3 weekly
That comes to 58 weekly departures.
Geneva only operates on the 4th and 11th April and Chambery doesn't operate in April.
Unfortunately it doesn't look like any of the Italy routes will survive, i was hoping they might do Verona but it looks like the airport will have to look elsewhere.
Edinburgh 18 weekly
Dublin 18 weekly
Belfast City 7 weekly
Paris CDG 7 weekly
Jersey 5 weekly
Cork 3 weekly
That comes to 58 weekly departures.
Geneva only operates on the 4th and 11th April and Chambery doesn't operate in April.
Unfortunately it doesn't look like any of the Italy routes will survive, i was hoping they might do Verona but it looks like the airport will have to look elsewhere.
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With Loganair now pulling their GLA-SEN route, it would be nice to have a double daily GLA-CWL route in lieu. Guess they’ll decide all of what once the new route begins in February.
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Would be nice but I'd be surprised if there was the demand for 2 daily yet. Maybe once they've become established on the route they may look at it? Though saying that it's 2 daily on Fridays and Sundays.
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CAA Stats September 2019
188,359 passengers used the airport up 5% on September 2018. The rolling year is 1,670,000 which is up 7.05% on a year ago.
Top 10 routes
1. Palma de Mallorca 16,679
2. Malaga 14,662
3. Amsterdam 13,982
4. Alicante 11,541
5. Edinburgh 10,388
6. Doha 9030
7. Dublin 8058
8. Dalaman 7161
9. Paris CDG 7144
10. Tenerife South 6951
188,359 passengers used the airport up 5% on September 2018. The rolling year is 1,670,000 which is up 7.05% on a year ago.
Top 10 routes
1. Palma de Mallorca 16,679
2. Malaga 14,662
3. Amsterdam 13,982
4. Alicante 11,541
5. Edinburgh 10,388
6. Doha 9030
7. Dublin 8058
8. Dalaman 7161
9. Paris CDG 7144
10. Tenerife South 6951
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True though much better figures for Cardiff - Doha. I make the Cardiff load factor 59%, BHX 68%, Manchester around 72-73% and Edinburgh 63% - none of which are hardy stellar.
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BHX - DOH was 10346 in September & Cardiff 9030 = difference 1316. I would be careful quoting a few hundred difference when it is well over a thousand, as you might get a call from team Boris
True though much better figures for Cardiff - Doha. I make the Cardiff load factor 59%, BHX 68%, Manchester around 72-73% and Edinburgh 63% - none of which are hardy stellar.
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True though much better figures for Cardiff - Doha. I make the Cardiff load factor 59%, BHX 68%, Manchester around 72-73% and Edinburgh 63% - none of which are hardy stellar.
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59% for CWL and 63% for EDI is verging on criminal!
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Well Qatar seem happy enough with it! I would not be surprised if they added more flights! Lol
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With reference to your quoted percentage figures for Qatar. Manchester has multi flights per day, today for instance:- 777 on the morning flight, A350 on the lunch time run and a 787 on the evening service.
So the the 73% is actual a fair number of passengers each day in comparison to the one flight from Cardiff and other airports.
Not complaining, just trying to balance the figures.
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With reference to your quoted percentage figures for Qatar. Manchester has multi flights per day, today for instance:- 777 on the morning flight, A350 on the lunch time run and a 787 on the evening service.
So the the 73% is actual a fair number of passengers each day in comparison to the one flight from Cardiff and other airports.
Not complaining, just trying to balance the figures.
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With reference to your quoted percentage figures for Qatar. Manchester has multi flights per day, today for instance:- 777 on the morning flight, A350 on the lunch time run and a 787 on the evening service.
So the the 73% is actual a fair number of passengers each day in comparison to the one flight from Cardiff and other airports.
Not complaining, just trying to balance the figures.
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With reference to your quoted percentage figures for Qatar. Manchester has multi flights per day, today for instance:- 777 on the morning flight, A350 on the lunch time run and a 787 on the evening service.
So the the 73% is actual a fair number of passengers each day in comparison to the one flight from Cardiff and other airports.
Not complaining, just trying to balance the figures.
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I know there is always case for expanding to improve yields, market share and to offer better connections and Qatar don't shy away from this especially at Manchester, Edinburgh and Gatwick. I for one know passengers that have used Qatar at Manchester over Birmingham despite living on the BHX's doorstep due to the fact the multiple daily departures at MAN offer better connections in Doha on the days and times they wanted. I am sure they are happy with Manchester figures otherwise they would be operating as many as they are.
VV - Quote "the CWL figures are only a few hundred behind the BHX-DOH figures" end of quote. Just not how I read it and Is there a way of knowing the inbound and outbound split ? Surely in theory it could be 1000 difference outbound and 316 difference inbound. Unlikely I know as most make return journeys but most times it is the totally monthly figure quoted. At the end of the day the difference is 1316 per the CAA stats
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National airport for Wales to take over passenger services operations at Anglesey Airport
https://www.cardiff-airport.com/news...lesey-airport/
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Eastern Airways have added a Sunday flight to Aberdeen and Newcastle.
https://www.cardiff-airport.com/news...-and-aberdeen/
https://www.cardiff-airport.com/news...-and-aberdeen/