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Old 23rd Jan 2020, 16:26
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Originally Posted by N707ZS
Does the Eastern Cardiff Aberdeen aircraft cover the route to RAF Valley.
Yes it does. It's rotated through Newcastle every day in the week.
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Just had an email from Flybe about my flight from Cardiff to Aberdeen and they have said that from the 10th February Eastern Airways will suspend their Cardiff to Newcastle flights, for passengers flying to Newcastle it looks like they will be offered alternative flights to Teeside and onward transport to Newcastle, for passengers like me who are flying to Aberdeen it just means the fuel stop will be at Teeside instead of Newcastle.
So let me get this right, Eastern/Flybe are dropping NCL but will continue to operate daily to ABZ via MME instead ? I wonder what the logic is with this ?

Are they going to be selling CWL-MME or is it simply a drop off and fuel ?

Eastern have served NCL since we lost Air Wales and such a shame to not see NCL on the departure boards. Would another carrier pick this route up like Loganair ? It was a popular destination back in the Air Wales days.
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Old 23rd Jan 2020, 17:46
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Originally Posted by Letsflycwl
So let me get this right, Eastern/Flybe are dropping NCL but will continue to operate daily to ABZ via MME instead ? I wonder what the logic is with this ?

Are they going to be selling CWL-MME or is it simply a drop off and fuel ?

Eastern have served NCL since we lost Air Wales and such a shame to not see NCL on the departure boards. Would another carrier pick this route up like Loganair ? It was a popular destination back in the Air Wales days.
Seems like it yes, dropping NCL and routing CWL-MME-ABZ, but the CWL-MME is not available to purchase (at least not yet).

I flew CWL-NCL-ABZ just last week and loads were awful for a Monday morning. 7 pax up to NCL, 2 stayed on board for ABZ and we had 1 join in NCL, so 3 up to ABZ.
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Old 23rd Jan 2020, 18:02
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Wow that is a shocking load factor, I remember the Air Wales ATR having loads in excess of 30 per flight on most days.

I guess the Eastern reliability and the actual flight costs do not help to either NCL or ABZ.

Such a shame to loose this domestic link though, can’t see a demand for MME !!

But looks like they are still operating a Sunday only CWL - NCL sector.

On a different note how do we know Correndon are operating 2 Turkey flights for TUI ? I can’t see any official reference about this.

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Old 23rd Jan 2020, 20:43
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Originally Posted by Letsflycwl
Wow that is a shocking load factor, I remember the Air Wales ATR having loads in excess of 30 per flight on most days.

I guess the Eastern reliability and the actual flight costs do not help to either NCL or ABZ.

Such a shame to loose this domestic link though, can’t see a demand for MME !!

But looks like they are still operating a Sunday only CWL - NCL sector.

On a different note how do we know Correndon are operating 2 Turkey flights for TUI ? I can’t see any official reference about this.
The CWL-NCL route was essentially no more than a positioning flight for the aircraft to do the Anglesey route. Hopefully the airport can get Loganair to take on Newcastle as well as it's a route that the airport shouldn't be without.
Corendon is from a source in the travel industry. Nothing on TUI website yet. Just says other carrier.
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Old 23rd Jan 2020, 21:07
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Yeah I agree that a NCL flight would fit in with Loganair as they do quite a few flights from there and CWL certainly can’t afford to loose another route that used to be quite profitable.

I wonder if CWL are already in discussion with Loganair ?
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I don’t see why CWL-MME couldn’t be put on sale but the return leg is more problematic. They would have to get check-in, security staffed for potentially just a handful of pax. The previous departure from MME is about three hours earlier, the next about four hours later.
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Old 23rd Jan 2020, 21:43
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The change in the timetable means the departure from Teesside to Aberdeen is at 12:15, so staff will already be there for that.
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Old 23rd Jan 2020, 23:16
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Originally Posted by Letsflycwl
Yeah I agree that a NCL flight would fit in with Loganair as they do quite a few flights from there and CWL certainly can’t afford to loose another route that used to be quite profitable.

I wonder if CWL are already in discussion with Loganair ?
I've no doubt that they are but only time will tell if they take the route up.
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Old 24th Jan 2020, 12:26
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Big announcement up at MME regarding their new Eastern/Flybe network and lots of reference to CWL as a daily passenger flight (so not just a fuel stop).....they said they’ve “poached it from NCL”.

As usual though no comment from CWL on this announcement !!
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new Eastern/Flybe network
I've not seen Flybe mentioned in any of the coverage.
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Old 24th Jan 2020, 12:48
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Originally Posted by Letsflycwl
Big announcement up at MME regarding their new Eastern/Flybe network and lots of reference to CWL as a daily passenger flight (so not just a fuel stop).....they said they’ve “poached it from NCL”.

As usual though no comment from CWL on this announcement !!
Give them chance, it's only just been announced by MME! Given it's a huge announcement of a new network for them it's likely they would get priority. If anything I wouldnt be surprised if CWL play this down anyway as MME is probably a step back over losing NCL.
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
I've not seen Flybe mentioned in any of the coverage.
I’m just assuming they will operate under BE prefix and not T3 under the franchise agreement in place. I’m guessing it’ll be the same J41 aircraft as per the current NCL schedule
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Old 24th Jan 2020, 15:44
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Originally Posted by Letsflycwl
Big announcement up at MME regarding their new Eastern/Flybe network and lots of reference to CWL as a daily passenger flight (so not just a fuel stop).....they said they’ve “poached it from NCL”.

As usual though no comment from CWL on this announcement !!
To be honest I doubt they are that happy about it. Losing Newcastle in favour of Teesside I doubt they see as positive.
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Old 24th Jan 2020, 15:58
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To be honest I doubt they are that happy about it. Losing Newcastle in favour of Teesside I doubt they see as positive.
Yeah I kind of agree there......guess we will have to wait and see and hope another airline snaps up the NCL sector with decent airfares too compared to some of the prices Eastern/Flybe charge
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Old 24th Jan 2020, 16:06
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I could understand disappointment at losing a Newcastle link but everyone on this thread seems very anti-Teesside? I think you'll find when the routes actually go on sale next week they'll be competitive
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Old 24th Jan 2020, 16:09
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Originally Posted by Robert-Ryan
I could understand disappointment at losing a Newcastle link but everyone on this thread seems very anti-Teesside? I think you'll find when the routes actually go on sale next week they'll be competitive
I really hope so don’t get me wrong, MME is better than just a Sunday service to NCL and who knows it may work perfectly for Eastern. I like the Eastern experience on the CWL-VLY route and have always liked the J41 so hope the MME route is a success for them
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Originally Posted by Robert-Ryan
I could understand disappointment at losing a Newcastle link but everyone on this thread seems very anti-Teesside? I think you'll find when the routes actually go on sale next week they'll be competitive
Hopefully they will be competitive but on the point 2 point Cardiff wise I just don't see the route having high demand. What it may do is make rotating the VLY aircraft cheaper and keeping the ABZ connection. Hopefully someone else will take on NCL so CWL has links to both!
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Old 24th Jan 2020, 17:19
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Originally Posted by Robert-Ryan
I could understand disappointment at losing a Newcastle link but everyone on this thread seems very anti-Teesside? I think you'll find when the routes actually go on sale next week they'll be competitive
Unless they throw away seats at cheap fares for the CWL-MME portion then i really cant see much demand for the route. It's more a schedule filler to boost CWL-ABZ by combining it with MME-ABZ because of the competition from Loganair at NCL.
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Old 27th Jan 2020, 20:47
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CWL-MME routes starting off at £68 oneway.....not a bad price for Eastern. I also see that the Sunday NCL flight is no longer on sale with Flybe.
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