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New MD announced. He has a very strong operational background but little commercial background and has already been at the airport for 8 years. However, it could be just what the airports needs in terms of airside development and operational upgrades as he'll no doubt know what to do on that score.
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New MD announced. He has a very strong operational background but little commercial background and has already been at the airport for 8 years. However, it could be just what the airports needs in terms of airside development and operational upgrades as he'll no doubt know what to do on that score.
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New MD announced. He has a very strong operational background but little commercial background and has already been at the airport for 8 years. However, it could be just what the airports needs in terms of airside development and operational upgrades as he'll no doubt know what to do on that score.
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They have no competition, they have slowly swallowed them all up over the years only to sit on their laurels. There are no national operators with regional aircraft. Hence why we are all frustrated that investment has not been forthcoming to open up SOU to the low cost operators (with their bigger aircraft). I am with Canberra though, this topic has been discussed at length now, so can probably be parked. The irony is that it has been discussed at such length because there is nothing else to talk about.......
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Flybe Fleet Review
http://www.flybe.com/media/news-archives/1805/1605/
Easiest and cheapest option taken here and expect the new E75 winglets to be the same as KLM. Interesting that the E95 is now being de-fleeted early 2020 as I thought they were being removed before S19 (maybe we will see some sun routes from SOU next year after all!)
http://www.flybe.com/media/news-archives/1805/1605/
Easiest and cheapest option taken here and expect the new E75 winglets to be the same as KLM. Interesting that the E95 is now being de-fleeted early 2020 as I thought they were being removed before S19 (maybe we will see some sun routes from SOU next year after all!)
Flybe Fleet Review
Great, just include up-rated engines on the new 175s and they can do something worthwhile at SOU.
Great, just include up-rated engines on the new 175s and they can do something worthwhile at SOU.
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Dusseldorf with Flybe has now been put on sale throughout the winter with no gaps as previously reported , daily except Saturday
Noticed that the airport have increased the drop off fee to £ 2 for 15 min from June , better watch out or else it will catch up with Bournemouth !
Noticed that the airport have increased the drop off fee to £ 2 for 15 min from June , better watch out or else it will catch up with Bournemouth !
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Dusseldorf with Flybe has now been put on sale throughout the winter with no gaps as previously reported , daily except Saturday
Noticed that the airport have increased the drop off fee to £ 2 for 15 min from June , better watch out or else it will catch up with Bournemouth !
Noticed that the airport have increased the drop off fee to £ 2 for 15 min from June , better watch out or else it will catch up with Bournemouth !
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Southampton is falling behind with expansion of any routes,the airport management seems stagnated,airside development is non existent,it seems that they are happy to plod on regardless!.
simply the airport will fall behind further without any progressive development.
simply the airport will fall behind further without any progressive development.
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By my recollection the last new route/airline announcement was EZY GVA last July. We are now almost 12 months on and not another single addition. Poor show SOU, must do better!!!
simply the airport will fall behind further without any progressive development.
Poor show SOU, must do better!!!
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For starters the business community in the south, of which there are many, would gladly jump on a plane to the likes of Munich, Frankfurt and Brussels, yet instead they have to slog their way up to Gatwick and Heathrow. Munich has recently come to an abrupt end although as I understand the route was popular and yields increasing nicely. SOU airport placed on their twitter page months ago for feedback on a Brussels link but no more has been heard and other financial cities in Europe have come and gone. For an airport that prides itself on business connectivity instead of bucket and spade, the destinations for corporates in the south are not overly well served and the airport I am certain could do better!
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I think you just said the reason right there. Heathrow and Gatwick are just up the road with like a dozen flights a day each on routes like that. Unless an airline like Flybe or BMI operate those routes other airlines aren't going to as they don't see the need.
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Why do people go on and on about SOU-MUC. The airline tried it for goodness sake. Frankfurt and Zurich were also attempted 15 years ago. If the yields were 'improving nicely' and 'it was popular' it would still be going. But it isn't because it wasn't viable. So either yields were not improving nicely or the passengers continued to use LHR due to the flight frequency choice. Either way it was not viable. With LHR just 60mins up the road SOU is going to struggle big time to go beyond 2m pax especially when considering the 3rd runway looming.
Therefore there is a finite level of demand at SOU - as other posters on here have mentioned. SOU is the ONLY airport in the country that is 1hr drive from LHR but not classified as a 'London' alternative airport. It's suffering from the 'black hole' effect that is LHR and LGW. Just look at U2 on SOU-GVA. SOU-GVA can only support 3 times per week, yet BOH can support 5-6 times per week as it is more distant from LHR and LGW & attracts a more western geographic catchment area. People in London are very unlikely to consider traveling to SOU to catch a flight.
I'd also be alarmed that the CEO up and left seeing more potential at BRS than SOU.
Therefore there is a finite level of demand at SOU - as other posters on here have mentioned. SOU is the ONLY airport in the country that is 1hr drive from LHR but not classified as a 'London' alternative airport. It's suffering from the 'black hole' effect that is LHR and LGW. Just look at U2 on SOU-GVA. SOU-GVA can only support 3 times per week, yet BOH can support 5-6 times per week as it is more distant from LHR and LGW & attracts a more western geographic catchment area. People in London are very unlikely to consider traveling to SOU to catch a flight.
I'd also be alarmed that the CEO up and left seeing more potential at BRS than SOU.
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Why do people go on and on about SOU-MUC. The airline tried it for goodness sake. Frankfurt and Zurich were also attempted 15 years ago. If the yields were 'improving nicely' and 'it was popular' it would still be going. But it isn't because it wasn't viable. So either yields were not improving nicely or the passengers continued to use LHR due to the flight frequency choice. Either way it was not viable. With LHR just 60mins up the road SOU is going to struggle big time to go beyond 2m pax especially when considering the 3rd runway looming.
Therefore there is a finite level of demand at SOU - as other posters on here have mentioned. SOU is the ONLY airport in the country that is 1hr drive from LHR but not classified as a 'London' alternative airport. It's suffering from the 'black hole' effect that is LHR and LGW. Just look at U2 on SOU-GVA. SOU-GVA can only support 3 times per week, yet BOH can support 5-6 times per week as it is more distant from LHR and LGW & attracts a more western geographic catchment area. People in London are very unlikely to consider traveling to SOU to catch a flight.
I'd also be alarmed that the CEO up and left seeing more potential at BRS than SOU.
Therefore there is a finite level of demand at SOU - as other posters on here have mentioned. SOU is the ONLY airport in the country that is 1hr drive from LHR but not classified as a 'London' alternative airport. It's suffering from the 'black hole' effect that is LHR and LGW. Just look at U2 on SOU-GVA. SOU-GVA can only support 3 times per week, yet BOH can support 5-6 times per week as it is more distant from LHR and LGW & attracts a more western geographic catchment area. People in London are very unlikely to consider traveling to SOU to catch a flight.
I'd also be alarmed that the CEO up and left seeing more potential at BRS than SOU.
arguements about LGW and LHR being up the road are a load of rubbish. I suppose the likes Luton, Stanstead, City and Southend should give up as well? The south is probably the most affluent area outside London, ripe market for city breaks and weekends away. Nobody flies from Heathrow unless it’s longhaul or connecting. Yes LGW is currently the default low cost carrier home, but it’s an awful airport and a right pain to get to. SOU could easily take a share of their market. And why would EZY cannibalise it’s own routes you might ask? Well, firstly they would not be losing any money stealing from themselves. Secondly, for an airline to remain profitable/competitive, it needs to maintain a certain growth, which the London airports cannot or shortly cannot provide for. Thirdly, if EZY based 6 aircraft at SOU and maxed out the stand availability, is there much chance of Ryanair being able to open a base and compete with them? They would have a captive market. The likes of flymaybe, BMI are wishy washy, their constant chopping and changing is no reflection on SOU.