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Yes, very good info EK77WNCL.
I was interested to note that NCL lost over 1m pax between 2007 and 2009. This reduction mainly came from 20 airport destinations who all saw a drop of more than 20,000 pax a year each.
DXB is the jewel in the crown for NCL and the 186k pax they added in the 10 years over the years 2007-2016 must have really impacted transfer pax at CDG, BRU, AMS (offset by U2 pulling out) and LHR (offset by the loss of STN and LGW).
I was interested to note that NCL lost over 1m pax between 2007 and 2009. This reduction mainly came from 20 airport destinations who all saw a drop of more than 20,000 pax a year each.
- Of these 20 ALC, AMS, BFS and TFS have recovered that drop and now have passenger levels well above 2007 levels.
- DUB, MAH, LPA and AGP recovered the drop and are now running at broadly the same levels as 2007.
- PMI, ORK, BRU, FAO, CFU dropped hugely between 2007 and 2009 and have remained at roughly 2009 levels.
- PRG and KRK are above 2009 but still far below 2007.
- CDG and BRS have continued to decline after the severe drop between 2007-2009.
- For completeness, STN, CIA and BGY have not reappeared
- Of the 20 routes responsible fore the 1m drop between 2007-2009, total pax on these routes have only increased by 350k in the period 2009-2016.
DXB is the jewel in the crown for NCL and the 186k pax they added in the 10 years over the years 2007-2016 must have really impacted transfer pax at CDG, BRU, AMS (offset by U2 pulling out) and LHR (offset by the loss of STN and LGW).
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From: Newcastle
Some really interesting info has popped up on this thread since I last looked!
I'm not an economist (and I know that airline economics is even more complicated than the normal kind
) but the numbers of passengers using the Gatwick and Stansted flights in 2007 make me wonder. Surely someone these days could make money on these routes?
Also, interesting to hear that Newcastle and Prestwick are the only airports in the North-ish end of the UK that are cleared for the B748. Surprised that, at least on this one small point, we've stolen a march on Edinburgh.
I'm not an economist (and I know that airline economics is even more complicated than the normal kind
) but the numbers of passengers using the Gatwick and Stansted flights in 2007 make me wonder. Surely someone these days could make money on these routes? Also, interesting to hear that Newcastle and Prestwick are the only airports in the North-ish end of the UK that are cleared for the B748. Surprised that, at least on this one small point, we've stolen a march on Edinburgh.
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From: Gateshead, UK
I'm assuming you're aware of the principle of a diversion though?
Not much to do with demand... More to do with landing your aircraft where you can, when you can, as safely as possible
I wasn't aware we were cleared to handle it on diversions. Interesting fact. So that'll be; LHR, LGW, STN, MAN, EMA, NCL, PIK, I assume. Also BHX?
Not much to do with demand... More to do with landing your aircraft where you can, when you can, as safely as possible
I wasn't aware we were cleared to handle it on diversions. Interesting fact. So that'll be; LHR, LGW, STN, MAN, EMA, NCL, PIK, I assume. Also BHX?
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From: Scotland
September stats:
Heathrow -6%
Aberdeen +35%
Belfast City 475
Belfast int +9%
Cardiff +10%
Jersey -6%
Southampton +11%
Brussels: +18%
Copenhagen -41%
Nice -15%
Paris CDG +3%
Berlin 3319
Dusseldorf +16%
Cork -40%
Dublin +1%
Rome -11%
Amsterdam +5%
Barcelona -39%
Madrid 3011
Stavanger -6%
Geneva -37%
Prague +3%
Gdansk 2786
Krakow -3
Warsaw 2730
Wroclaw 2194
Dubai +4%
Sanford +49%
Cancun -13%
12 month rolling 5.23m +11%
Heathrow -6%
Aberdeen +35%
Belfast City 475
Belfast int +9%
Cardiff +10%
Jersey -6%
Southampton +11%
Brussels: +18%
Copenhagen -41%
Nice -15%
Paris CDG +3%
Berlin 3319
Dusseldorf +16%
Cork -40%
Dublin +1%
Rome -11%
Amsterdam +5%
Barcelona -39%
Madrid 3011
Stavanger -6%
Geneva -37%
Prague +3%
Gdansk 2786
Krakow -3
Warsaw 2730
Wroclaw 2194
Dubai +4%
Sanford +49%
Cancun -13%
12 month rolling 5.23m +11%
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From: Northumberland
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From: Newcastle
To be fair to them, the company themselves do describe Rome and Antalya as 'two new winter routes' (my italics - I don't think either of these have been served in winter from NCL before? I could be wrong). You're right though: a lot of local news outlets seem to see themselves as cheerleaders for the North East rather than serious news organisations and end up doing the PR industry's work for them. The line between current affairs and PR is getting very blurred, as is the line between positive spin and outright lies, but this is maybe a subject for JetBlast!