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The main thing with this list from the masterplan, IMO, is where the consistency in demand would come from. Very little business travel in either direction other than hubs, very little inward tourism too. Generally just taking a plane load of Geordies on their holidays, then bringing them all back again. Once everyone from within the catchment area who wants to go has been, that's it, the route gets pulled.
BER was served by EZY back in the 7 based A/C days and got pulled, then they tried again a couple of years back, 2-3 a week, but pulled it once again. Big routes like MAD get pulled too after a season or two.
If anything on the list does come to fruition I'd expect short term, low frequency, as has already been mentioned earlier.
Any airport who can achieve 9-10m pax per year ought to be able to sustain direct flights to NYC. As NCL can't, I'd not hold much hope for ATL. AA tried JFK but pulled it before it even started, then UA failed also. Nobody has an a/c small enough to accommodate the 90ish pax per flight demand and still turn a profit.
EZY aren't interested, FR are reducing their presence more and more, LS are going big at STN and BHX so dont seem to be very cuty break oriented out of NCL other than the ad hoc offerings and PRG. Wizz wouldn't be a bad call as it's hard to see where any new additions would come from.
BER was served by EZY back in the 7 based A/C days and got pulled, then they tried again a couple of years back, 2-3 a week, but pulled it once again. Big routes like MAD get pulled too after a season or two.
If anything on the list does come to fruition I'd expect short term, low frequency, as has already been mentioned earlier.
Any airport who can achieve 9-10m pax per year ought to be able to sustain direct flights to NYC. As NCL can't, I'd not hold much hope for ATL. AA tried JFK but pulled it before it even started, then UA failed also. Nobody has an a/c small enough to accommodate the 90ish pax per flight demand and still turn a profit.
EZY aren't interested, FR are reducing their presence more and more, LS are going big at STN and BHX so dont seem to be very cuty break oriented out of NCL other than the ad hoc offerings and PRG. Wizz wouldn't be a bad call as it's hard to see where any new additions would come from.
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Didn't easyjet already try Berlin recently? There's no airline alliance hub in Berlin, so a low cost airline is really the only option, and if easyjet couldn't get it to work only Ryanair is really left.
Maybe if there's extra capacity with the new airport (unlikely) someone can try again.
Maybe if there's extra capacity with the new airport (unlikely) someone can try again.
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The problem has always been more money to be made at other airports.
hopefully with slightly less competition at Manchester and Gatwick with cooks gone we may see less Palmas needed there and this may free up aircraft to come to other local airports to offer new direct flights
cant see anything changing until at least max is flying again.
be nice if operators went after improving profits at the bigger airports rather than market share and having a few empty seats
hopefully with slightly less competition at Manchester and Gatwick with cooks gone we may see less Palmas needed there and this may free up aircraft to come to other local airports to offer new direct flights
cant see anything changing until at least max is flying again.
be nice if operators went after improving profits at the bigger airports rather than market share and having a few empty seats
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There seems to be a lot of pre-planned chopping and changing rather than reactive. I am on the outbound on the 22nd, which was originally booked last august. We got notification of an aircraft change to A319 in October. In November, a notification that it will be op'd by Lufthansa Cityline. The online seat map is still showing an A319 for this flight. The return the following week is still shown as op'd by mainline.
I remember when the service was first available for booking it was showing some flights on CR9 in the booking engine from the getgo, so I wouldn't be too concerned about the occasional CR9 service - it's likely been planned that way for a long time.
We've also had a time change notification some time ago for the Muc-Ncl leg.
I remember when the service was first available for booking it was showing some flights on CR9 in the booking engine from the getgo, so I wouldn't be too concerned about the occasional CR9 service - it's likely been planned that way for a long time.
We've also had a time change notification some time ago for the Muc-Ncl leg.
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Looks like TUI are going to be operating aircraft other than 737-800 this summer. I have a booking for a flight to Naples in July and the seating plan has changed to an aircraft with 6 seats per row and 30 rows. No extra legroom seating.
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A320 from Avion has been mentioned.
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January pax stats are now available on the CAA website.
Good results achieved on :
Paris.. 13,355 up 9%
Dusseldorf....3784 up 13%
Amsterdam....30,075 up 8%
Barcelona.....3373...up 5%
Las Palmas...4816...up 10%
DUBAI.....21,017....up 2%
Aberdeen....3956....up 146%
Heathrow....33,130...up 1%
Good results achieved on :
Paris.. 13,355 up 9%
Dusseldorf....3784 up 13%
Amsterdam....30,075 up 8%
Barcelona.....3373...up 5%
Las Palmas...4816...up 10%
DUBAI.....21,017....up 2%
Aberdeen....3956....up 146%
Heathrow....33,130...up 1%
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Looks like Flybe may only keep going till the end of the month.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-51733405
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-51733405
