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Old 22nd Feb 2020, 21:28
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The main thing with this list from the masterplan, IMO, is where the consistency in demand would come from. Very little business travel in either direction other than hubs, very little inward tourism too. Generally just taking a plane load of Geordies on their holidays, then bringing them all back again. Once everyone from within the catchment area who wants to go has been, that's it, the route gets pulled.

BER was served by EZY back in the 7 based A/C days and got pulled, then they tried again a couple of years back, 2-3 a week, but pulled it once again. Big routes like MAD get pulled too after a season or two.

If anything on the list does come to fruition I'd expect short term, low frequency, as has already been mentioned earlier.

Any airport who can achieve 9-10m pax per year ought to be able to sustain direct flights to NYC. As NCL can't, I'd not hold much hope for ATL. AA tried JFK but pulled it before it even started, then UA failed also. Nobody has an a/c small enough to accommodate the 90ish pax per flight demand and still turn a profit.

EZY aren't interested, FR are reducing their presence more and more, LS are going big at STN and BHX so dont seem to be very cuty break oriented out of NCL other than the ad hoc offerings and PRG. Wizz wouldn't be a bad call as it's hard to see where any new additions would come from.
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Old 22nd Feb 2020, 21:29
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Didn't easyjet already try Berlin recently? There's no airline alliance hub in Berlin, so a low cost airline is really the only option, and if easyjet couldn't get it to work only Ryanair is really left.

Maybe if there's extra capacity with the new airport (unlikely) someone can try again.
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Old 23rd Feb 2020, 10:16
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Oslo with Loganair is probably the most likely to happen
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Old 23rd Feb 2020, 10:58
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The problem has always been more money to be made at other airports.
hopefully with slightly less competition at Manchester and Gatwick with cooks gone we may see less Palmas needed there and this may free up aircraft to come to other local airports to offer new direct flights

cant see anything changing until at least max is flying again.

be nice if operators went after improving profits at the bigger airports rather than market share and having a few empty seats
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Old 25th Feb 2020, 04:20
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Loganair Winter 2020/21

Winter now on sale

Newquay is 3x weekly

Guernsey has some departures over the Xmas and new year

Bergen continues during the winter

all good news
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Old 25th Feb 2020, 09:38
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Plus Brussels 10 weekly
Stavanger 6 weekly
Aberdeen 13 weekly
Bergen is 2 weekly
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Old 28th Feb 2020, 09:39
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Originally Posted by GrahamK View Post
Dusseldorf dropped for W20/21?
Not sure if I've seen it mentioned previously, but S20 seems to be down to 4 a week (Tues and Thurs dropped).
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Old 29th Feb 2020, 13:49
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Few A320s starting to appear on the MUC route i see.
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Old 29th Feb 2020, 13:59
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Hmm - there's been one, and two days before it was a CRJ9.

DUS has seen far more upgrades recently, and that's on the way out.
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Old 29th Feb 2020, 15:08
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB View Post
Hmm - there's been one, and two days before it was a CRJ9.

DUS has seen far more upgrades recently, and that's on the way out.
A320 again on the 6th
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Old 29th Feb 2020, 16:09
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Originally Posted by LiamNCL View Post
A320 again on the 6th
There seems to be a lot of pre-planned chopping and changing rather than reactive. I am on the outbound on the 22nd, which was originally booked last august. We got notification of an aircraft change to A319 in October. In November, a notification that it will be op'd by Lufthansa Cityline. The online seat map is still showing an A319 for this flight. The return the following week is still shown as op'd by mainline.

I remember when the service was first available for booking it was showing some flights on CR9 in the booking engine from the getgo, so I wouldn't be too concerned about the occasional CR9 service - it's likely been planned that way for a long time.

We've also had a time change notification some time ago for the Muc-Ncl leg.
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Old 29th Feb 2020, 17:03
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Looks like TUI are going to be operating aircraft other than 737-800 this summer. I have a booking for a flight to Naples in July and the seating plan has changed to an aircraft with 6 seats per row and 30 rows. No extra legroom seating.
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Old 29th Feb 2020, 17:05
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Originally Posted by simonwa View Post
Looks like TUI are going to be operating aircraft other than 737-800 this summer. I have a booking for a flight to Naples in July and the seating plan has changed to an aircraft with 6 seats per row and 30 rows. No extra legroom seating.
A320 from Avion has been mentioned.
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Old 1st Mar 2020, 00:10
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Originally Posted by LiamNCL View Post
A320 from Avion has been mentioned.
2x Avion aircraft to join the 2x 738ís
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Old 1st Mar 2020, 08:48
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Originally Posted by HH6702 View Post
2x Avion aircraft to join the 2x 738ís
were Avion very reliability when they operated fromNCL for TCX?
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Old 1st Mar 2020, 08:53
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Originally Posted by DanAir89 View Post
were Avion very reliability when they operated fromNCL for TCX?
I flew on LY-VEN few year ago , basic inside but does the job. NCL wont be the only base with cover this summer.
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Old 1st Mar 2020, 18:24
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January pax stats are now available on the CAA website.
Good results achieved on :
Paris.. 13,355 up 9%
Dusseldorf....3784 up 13%
Amsterdam....30,075 up 8%
Barcelona.....3373...up 5%
Las Palmas...4816...up 10%
DUBAI.....21,017....up 2%

Aberdeen....3956....up 146%
Heathrow....33,130...up 1%
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Old 4th Mar 2020, 17:57
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Looks like Flybe may only keep going till the end of the month.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-51733405
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Old 5th Mar 2020, 07:00
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Not even that, now gone.
I hope the impact on NCL isn't too great.
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Old 5th Mar 2020, 07:06
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Exeter and Southampton, with Southend not started. Ripe for Loganair if they have aircraft availability.

Sad news for all Flybe employees however
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