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Old 8th Dec 2019, 11:54
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Originally Posted by VentureGo View Post
Emirates EK35 has just aborted landing at NCL and is currently making 2nd attempt. Strong wind gust maybe?
Wind 240į at 17kts, Gusting to 28kts, so without being inspector morse, Iíd way youíre right.
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Old 8th Dec 2019, 14:32
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aborted landing.

Originally Posted by Falcon900LX View Post


Wind 240į at 17kts, Gusting to 28kts, so without being inspector morse, Iíd way youíre right.
Did the Ek 35 land on second attempt.
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Old 8th Dec 2019, 14:48
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Yes, it did.
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Old 10th Dec 2019, 21:48
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Easyjet


new routes to be announced tomorrow letís hope Newcastle sees something from them 4th aircraft would be nice
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Old 10th Dec 2019, 22:13
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Probably no chance of that, NCL expansion not on their radar.
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Old 11th Dec 2019, 07:14
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Originally Posted by deltahotel9 View Post
Probably no chance of that, NCL expansion not on their radar.

well never mind, amazing how EasyJet with 7 aircraft based at Newcastle at one time allowed Jet 2 with 1 737qc to dominate and displace them at Newcastle!
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Old 11th Dec 2019, 07:48
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allowed Jet 2 with 1 737qc to dominate and displace them at Newcastle!
Clearly more money to be made elsewhere!
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Old 11th Dec 2019, 07:50
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB View Post
Clearly more money to be made elsewhere!
Predictable response ..🥱

But look how much jet 2 are making 🤗

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Old 11th Dec 2019, 08:11
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But accurate - look at how many bases the two airlines have and their repective rate of expansion. EZY tend not to miss open goals - even Jet2 are growing NCL slowly than many of their other bases.

The simple truth is that NCL serves a relatively small, relatively poor market.
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Old 11th Dec 2019, 08:40
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB View Post
But accurate - look at how many bases the two airlines have and their repective rate of expansion. EZY tend not to miss open goals - even Jet2 are growing NCL slowly than many of their other bases.

The simple truth is that NCL serves a relatively small, relatively poor market.
While you may be right there about the market, the original post was intended to be positive and pro- NCL!

perhaps easyJet donít understand the NCL market - Ssh or a turkish flight may have been a good idea. Hamburg perhaps not...

having spoken to a London based agency this week who contacted me about a job in Leeds and suggested it was only a 50min commute it reinforced my view that there is a lot of ignorance about the north east especially In London.

jet2 are following airtours to a certain extent doing really well in northern markets that they understand. It eventually started to go all wrong for Airtours as they moved further south....

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Old 11th Dec 2019, 09:15
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Given the circumstances, I think the team at NCL are doing pretty decently. The new KH Munich service opens up a lot of Germany, and hopefully it and DUS can co-exist. Loganair seem to be doing well, with Brussels now starting to move upwards despite not having an inter line agreement with SN. AF mainline increasing to 2 x daily next summer- more capacity there. EK seem to have settled down again following the start of EDI flights. Plenty of growth could be seen from them again without going double daily. BA, I'm not sure what's going on with them though them seem to be using more A321s nowadays. Then KLM are always consistent. Yes, the capacity to the Canaries will be down, but yields for the airlines will likely increase
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Old 11th Dec 2019, 09:17
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I believe the way Easyjet works is the local base chiefs present proposals for new routes that they think will work, then upper management allocate aircraft to a base depending on the financial forecast they were presented with. So I don't think its really a case of the London office not understanding the Northern market, but more those on the ground being unable to present a plan that compares to those from other bases. Lets not forget Easyjet have bases all across Europe to think about - that's a lot of competition for the aircraft.

Also lets not forget that they both target slightly different market segments - Easyjet is more about city breaks and business travel, while Jet2 are more focused on package holidays and bucket and spade destinations. With the launch of Easyjet holidays recently, we may see a shift in focus in future, which Newcastle may well benefit from.
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Old 11th Dec 2019, 09:39
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Agree with all of the comments above which are within the spirit of my initial comment, easyJetís loss for not wanting more Geordie passengers!

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Old 11th Dec 2019, 10:09
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easyJet have stayed reasonably stationary over the last few years at NCL.
Ryanair have decreased their presence at NCL over the last few years.
Jet2 have not expanded like some believe and have in-fact stayed stationary similar to easyJet.

The peak-summer weekly departures by Jet2 over the last few years are as follows:
Aug-17 - 96x weekly departures, 7x based aircraft
Aug-18 - 99x weekly departures, 7x based aircraft
Aug-19 - 100x weekly departures, 7x based aircraft
Aug-20 - 100x weekly departures, 7x based aircraft

EMA, BFS, GLA and EDI have also seen very little expansion from Jet2 over the last few summers in comparison to LBA, BHX, STN and MAN which have had large and continued expansion.
Jet2 are now focused on other markets and seem to be happy to keep their smaller bases the same.

TUI however have steadily increased their NCL presence over the last couple of years, and next year will see a significant increase in flights and another based aircraft.
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Old 11th Dec 2019, 10:57
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Any news on the repair on SX-ABQ? 11 weeks almost now.
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Old 11th Dec 2019, 13:18
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easyJet will have to replace the 2x A319 eventually with A320. That will happen before a 4th Aircraft IMO.
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Old 11th Dec 2019, 13:54
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I agree, though they've still got a load of 319's left (about 70?). Weren't we the last 737 base?
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Old 11th Dec 2019, 15:28
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With Rhodes not operating next summer there is a once weekly slot available for a new destination with Easyjet
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Old 11th Dec 2019, 19:59
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With Rhodes not operating next summer there is a once weekly slot available for a new destination with Easyjet
On the grapevine that it could be DLM. Nothing confirmed yet though.
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