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Old 16th Dec 2019, 19:54
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Originally Posted by Jamesair
October pax statistic on the ABZ route is 4,020 up 236%....loganair seem to have tapped into a big underserved market.
thatís very good.
lets hope it continues

be interesting next summer with Newquay then
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Old 19th Dec 2019, 16:49
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October highlights

main risers


paris................15,244.... +21%
dusseldorf.....3344 .... + 9%
naples.............3025 ..... +14%
rome................2827.... +10%
amsterdam....30,410......+4%
faro................21,250.....+6%
alicante........ 36,085......+3%
almeria.........1632..........+61%
barcelona...7281.........+6%
girona...........6314........+42%
ibiza................7606........+19%
malaga........26,704........+4%
stavanger.....1146...........+29%
wroclaw.....3783...........+39%
dubai,,,,,,,.,,,19,184.........+5%
cancun.......3926,,,,,,,,,,,+47%

aberdeen......4020......+236%

main fallers

dubrovnik......3090......-12%
larnaca.........5801......-34%
nice................2110......-20%
corfu............2336......-47%
heraklion....4274......-19%
kos...............1813.......-54%
dublin..........17,947.......-8%
funchal.........1444........-14%
mahon....... ....3018........-19%
palma...........34,595.......-4%
reus................4166.......-24%
arrecife.....10,430.......-31%
fuerteventura....3268......-49%
las palmas...4772........-27%
tenerife.......19,2244.....-11%
antalya.........9887.........-16%
bodrum.........1345........-56%
dalaman.......12,677......-21%
prague...........2835.......-13%
gdansk.........2460........-10%
enfidha........1283........-31%
orlando......2375........-22%

bristol......15,346......-9%
cardiff....... 472........-25%
exeter.......3397........-23%
heathrow....40,218.....-13%
jersey.......2817.......-6%
southampton........9827.......-3%

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Old 21st Dec 2019, 16:15
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RYANAIR.......GERONA now showing in the timetables for Summer 20 operating on TUES and SAT
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It's Girona not Gerona
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Old 22nd Dec 2019, 10:40
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Girona is often spelt with an "e" Gerona. Both names are correct but one name is in Spanish and the other is in Catalan.
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Old 22nd Dec 2019, 12:59
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Originally Posted by NorthEasterner
It's Girona not Gerona
Was always Gerona (on departure boards and tickets) up until some years ago.
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Old 22nd Dec 2019, 15:34
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Gerona

Originally Posted by CabinCrewe

Was always Gerona (on departure boards and tickets) up until some years ago.
Even to this day Gerona is shown either way.
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Old 24th Dec 2019, 16:22
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Merry Christmas to everybody......and "cheers" to a good year for the airport in 2020.
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Old 28th Dec 2019, 07:44
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CAA stats are out, with a flat November being an improvement on a poor summer. Clearly still a negative impact from the absence of TCX. Madrid has finally dropped out of the figures but Berlin and Warsaw are still working their way through.

LHR, DXB, AMS, DUB all stable with CDG still growing despite the absence of mainline a/c in the winter. Another 200%+ increase on ABZ.

The airport have been pushing MUC hard in the press and on social media. Lets see how that goes.
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Old 28th Dec 2019, 09:06
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november 2019

main risers

larnaca............1080 +151%
paphos..............4207 +11%
paris.................13,609 +6%
malta.................2816 +11%
rome................1829 +747%
amsterdam....30,214 +2%
faro.................5289 +22%
funchal..........1654 +51%
alicante........26,999 +16%
malaga.........15,190 +4%
palma..............3009 +104%
stavanger......1031 +12%
antalya...........2900 +49%
dalaman..........1137 + 195%
prague............3163 +75%
krakow...........3183 +9%
wroclaw........3019 +3%

aberdeen.......3728 + 290%

main fallers

brussels...........1490 - 49%
dusseldorf......3972 - 3%
dublin...............17,087 - 2%
arrecife.........19,776 -15%
fuerteventura....3239 -25%
tenerife..........21,178 -4%
geneva...........568 -76%

belfast........20,866 -6%
bristol........14,611 -8%
cardiff..........622 -5%
exeter........3051 -10%
heathrow....38,913 -3%
southampton....8331 -16%
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The November figure for DUBAI was 17,995 down 1% so stable.

The Geneva figure of 568 pax looks suspiciously low to me, when compared to the usual year round monthly figures. There could be an error here I think.

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ATC Thread suggests Air traffic control staffing problems there...hope they get it sorted for the summer traffic!

send them to TIA. Plenty of room there?
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Old 28th Dec 2019, 20:53
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Originally Posted by Jamesair
The November figure for DUBAI was 17,995 down 1% so stable
What load factor is that? EDI-DXB for Nov wasn't great at 64% (1/3 of EK and 1/3 of QR empty- thats a lots of seats) Nov can often be a strong month too with positive gains and high loads on most of their UK routes.
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Old 28th Dec 2019, 21:40
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Originally Posted by VickersVicount

What load factor is that? EDI-DXB for Nov wasn't great at 64% (1/3 of EK and 1/3 of QR empty- thats a lots of seats) Nov can often be a strong month too with positive gains and high loads on most of their UK routes.
thatís around 600 pax a day roughly.
guessing around 85% as not all aircraft would have been high seating of 428

428x2 x 30 is 25,680 was the max seats available
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Old 29th Dec 2019, 10:58
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Dubai

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thatís around 600 pax a day roughly.
guessing around 85% as not all aircraft would have been high seating of 428

428x2 x 30 is 25,680 was the max seats available
Dubai averaged 300 pax per flight at 78% load factor - 34 sectors by 360 seat aircraft, 20 sectors by 428 seat aircraft and 6 sectors by 354 seat aircraft using planespotters.net for configuration and FR24 for registrations

BHX, GLA and MAN were all similar load factors with MAN and BHX also seeing capacity downgrades at times.

Glasgow averaged 274 pax - 76% based on 360 seats, Edinburgh 239 per flight or 67% based on 360 seats but possibly some 354 seat operated (at least one).

Stansted out of interest averaged 277 per flight and again in that same bracket 78% load factor which I suppose indicates something to do with yield management/fares.

Manchester had the highest load factor outside of London, at least 81% but that was only due to the volume of capacity downgrades on EK21 especially.

This is based on all services operating and the accuracy of FR24 and planespotters.net.

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Old 29th Dec 2019, 11:22
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Dubai averaged 300 pax per flight at 78% load factor - 34 sectors by 360 seat aircraft, 20 sectors by 428 seat aircraft and 6 sectors by 354 seat aircraft using planespotters.net for configuration and FR24 for registrations
While we know L/F is only a general sign of how well a route is doing, if we are going to use it surely it should be calculated on the basis of the seats available for sale, rather than what turned up on the day?

Manchester had the highest load factor outside of London, at least 81% but that was only due to the volume of capacity downgrades on EK21 especially.
This sort of proves my point - L/F high, but only because of lower capacity a/c being used. So is MAN doing better than the rest or not?
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Load Factor

Originally Posted by SWBKCB
While we know L/F is only a general sign of how well a route is doing, if we are going to use it surely it should be calculated on the basis of the seats available for sale, rather than what turned up on the day?

This sort of proves my point - L/F high, but only because of lower capacity a/c being used. So is MAN doing better than the rest or not?

It is a good point you make as when the seats were first released the route would have been planned and costed at the original aircraft as in BHX's case 2 x 615 seat A388 for 30 days and not with the 7 smaller capacity 388's that actually turned up.

Only the Emirates revenue department know the yield per route and it is all guesswork and even more difficult for those on the outside with Glasgow, Manchester and Edinburgh selling first class whereas BHX and NCL

You can get an indication of some trends when comparing one month to another or to the previous year but beyond that I don't think you can say an awful lot in respect of fact and especially not yield. Even comparing one month or a year is not even fool proof if capacity has been added, reduced or even as simple as the movement of Ramadan and Easter.

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Old 31st Dec 2019, 00:00
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TUI Summer 2020

JTR no longer available on TUI for Summer 2020, still up for Summer 2021

Looks like itís been replaced by NCL-PMI-HUY-PMI-NCL instead of Eurowings operating the HUY sector

Tuesday TFS now operating in the morning with evening DLM
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Old 2nd Jan 2020, 22:27
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Originally Posted by natmci
JTR no longer available on TUI for Summer 2020, still up for Summer 2021

Looks like itís been replaced by NCL-PMI-HUY-PMI-NCL instead of Eurowings operating the HUY sector

Tuesday TFS now operating in the morning with evening DLM
Some more changes from TUI

Monday afternoon DLM looks like itís being operated with the EDI AC doing EDI-DLM-NCL-DLM-EDI, nothing in place of it yet

AGA on a Thursday no longer available either, nothing in its place either
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AGA cancelled yet again this must be the 3rd time itís been on sale and never got off the ground.

im expecting a lot more changes this will be due to the on going max aircraft

shame about JTR maybe another operator pick it up
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