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Old 26th Feb 2018, 11:52
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Expressflight ... I wasn't having a pop at SEN or Stobart but at the press ... If they can't even gtet the basics right what hope is there!
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Old 26th Feb 2018, 13:17
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I didn't realise your question was connected to the Echo story. I thought it was just a reasonable request for clarification of the ownership status of SEN. The Echo reportage was inaccurate? Surely not!
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Old 26th Feb 2018, 14:23
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Lease

126 years remaining. Rent payable is £175k per annum rising with RPI starting 2015.
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Old 26th Feb 2018, 14:34
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I understood you. I am afraid the local rag is run by delinquents and college rejects who cannot link three words together to make any sense...but the chief editor signs every thing off to keep the local residents happy (or not)
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Old 27th Feb 2018, 07:46
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SEN reduce free drop off time from 15 minutes to 5 minutes..
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Old 27th Feb 2018, 07:59
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A bit of a rush, but it may be to keep traffic moving with the rapid increase of pax numbers.
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Old 27th Feb 2018, 08:07
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Be interesting to see how the various "favourite airport" survey results stand up to the increased numbers.
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Old 27th Feb 2018, 08:23
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A very big mistake in my view. OK, reduce it to 10 minutes free if (and that's a big 'if') it's to reduce congestion but not 5 minutes. A cynical commercial opportunity seems the more likely reason.
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Old 27th Feb 2018, 09:39
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Remember that the drop off is in the short term car park. 5 minutes simply won't work in my opinion. I would not be surprised to see a new priority drop off area being introduced soon - chargeable, of course.
http://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/1604...s/?ref=mr&lp=9

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Old 27th Feb 2018, 10:31
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Time it. Arrive barrier...find parking space...assist three people out of the car and their luggage from the boot...hugs and wave goodbye...get back into car....race to exit barrier before 5 mins...or stop and pay in queue..not sure what system you have....it's impossible for most people, and the taxis who have already written negative views....sack that lady now.
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Old 27th Feb 2018, 11:38
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Old 27th Feb 2018, 12:11
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I see it has been reported today that Ryanair is dropping 20 routes from Glasgow, including Stansted. I wonder how much, if at all, SEN will benefit from this?
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Old 27th Feb 2018, 12:43
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I make no criticism of SEN in their response to the "Beast from the East" (the weather not Harry) but please Mr or Ms Spokesperson, don't describe delays of up to 5 hours so far as "minor". Try saying something like conditions are extremely challenging but our staff are committed to doing everything possible.........blah blah.. etc.
http://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/1605...t_due_to_snow/
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Old 27th Feb 2018, 16:11
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WHAT: Clearly Southend Council got a shocking deal for the rate payers. |In 2015 Abertis sold a controlling stake in Luton for £502 million to Aena. This for a lease that ends in 2031. On top of that the airport operator pays a fee of around £2.63 per passenger to the council. Southend council is earning the equivalent of 14p per passenger which will reduce as more passengers pass through the airport.
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Old 27th Feb 2018, 16:22
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Apples and pears - what was the status of both airports at the time of the deals??
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Old 27th Feb 2018, 16:31
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@LTNman, depends how you look at it. If the airport was costing the countil £x m a year in losses, plus in need of significant investment, then they went from a huge deficit to making a profit of £175k a year without having to do anything.
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Old 27th Feb 2018, 19:03
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Didn't cost the council anything as Regional Airports owned it and sold it for £20m to Stobart. 'Tis indeed a terrible deal for the council but when did a local authority ever seal a good deal with a private operator (I'll give you a clue - never).
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Old 28th Feb 2018, 04:34
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But Stobart's didn't buy the airport, they don't own it!
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Old 28th Feb 2018, 05:28
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They can buy the lease which is what I think Stobartís did. It has been argued that the Ltn deal was too good for the council as it could have impacted investment.

With the Southend deal the council is getting a minimal sum per passenger which decreases as the passenger figure goes up so the council do not get to share the airports success despite ultimately still owning it. No doubt it might have been seen as a good deal at the time but not any more.
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Old 28th Feb 2018, 05:34
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But then how would the council have raised the funds to develop it from a pretty much run down semi-Stolport in to what it is today?
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