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Old 31st Jan 2020, 11:00
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Originally Posted by Expressflight
Increased Train Usage at SEN

A report by Airport World says that 47% of passengers going through SEN between December 3 2019 and January 6 2020 used the train.

Of the remainder 24% were dropped off by friends/family and just 17% drove and parked at SEN. I suspect that the introduction of three Wizz destinations has contributed to the numbers using the train as this has increased from 33% a year earlier. The addition of early and late trains to the schedule will also have helped drive this increase.
Thats quite a high number. I think thats highest of any UK airport by quite a distance. At Heathrow 28% use rail and 13% bus/coach, 59% car or taxi. I think MAN is something like 30% for all public transport modalities combined (Train, Tram and Bus/Coach). Well done to SEN if they have achieved such a high proportion of train use, butWhat have they done differently to other airports which also have rail & bus interchanges on-site? Are there lessons which can be learned?
I wonder if the methodology used is quite right, given the gap is so large? Have they taken all passengers through the terminal and all users through the airport station? Not all station users will be airport passengers, there might be a fair number of employees and commuters too. Even if there are relatively few in number if the average computer is doing 4 journeys a week that will soon mount up - especially over a short sample period.
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Old 31st Jan 2020, 12:42
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Sort of indicates that the airport does not have good road access but passengers using the train is better than using the car. Gatwick is around 32%. Luton is around 16% but aims for the Gatwick figure.

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Originally Posted by brian_dromey
Thats quite a high number. I think thats highest of any UK airport by quite a distance. At Heathrow 28% use rail and 13% bus/coach, 59% car or taxi. I think MAN is something like 30% for all public transport modalities combined (Train, Tram and Bus/Coach). Well done to SEN if they have achieved such a high proportion of train use, butWhat have they done differently to other airports which also have rail & bus interchanges on-site? Are there lessons which can be learned?
I wonder if the methodology used is quite right, given the gap is so large? Have they taken all passengers through the terminal and all users through the airport station? Not all station users will be airport passengers, there might be a fair number of employees and commuters too. Even if there are relatively few in number if the average computer is doing 4 journeys a week that will soon mount up - especially over a short sample period.
I think the highest is LCY. In 2017 it was 69% of passengers arriving by public transport.

The lack of coach links probably pushes more people towards the train than other airports where there is more alternatives.
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Old 31st Jan 2020, 16:16
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Southend is now a 2m passenger airport! 2019 delivered 2,035,535 passengers which is up 37.5%
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Old 31st Jan 2020, 17:03
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Originally Posted by Sharklet_321
Southend is now a 2m passenger airport! 2019 delivered 2,035,535 passengers which is up 37.5%
Indeed, and (for whatever reason) that does not include the handful of flights for Chisinau service since mid-July.
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Old 31st Jan 2020, 21:45
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Originally Posted by BA318
I think the highest is LCY. In 2017 it was 69% of passengers arriving by public transport.

The lack of coach links probably pushes more people towards the train than other airports where there is more alternatives.
That would make sense, I forgot about LCY. I wonder if there is a difference in public transport use by Frequent Flyers, Short Haul, Long Haul, IT Charter and LCC passengers. I can see multiple ways to argue who would be more likely to use a given mode of transport. My guess is that single travellers are more likely to use public transport and families of 3+ less likely to use public transport, because fares mount up, when charged per-person. Parking and Taxis are more competitive as the party size increases.
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New route from Ryanair.

https://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/182...-rodez-france/
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Old 3rd Feb 2020, 22:32
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Originally Posted by DC3 Dave
So 24 flights in total?
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Old 3rd Feb 2020, 22:45
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SEN didn't have that many in 2009. Just a Saturday summer service to Jersey. How times change......
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As far as I can see Rodez is not yet bookable despite the Ryanair spokesman in the Echo story saying it is.
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Old 4th Feb 2020, 08:27
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Originally Posted by Expressflight
As far as I can see Rodez is not yet bookable despite the Ryanair spokesman in the Echo story saying it is.
Also seems strange that Kosice and Copenhagen are still on the drop down list, although no dates are available.
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Old 4th Feb 2020, 18:14
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The Rodez flights are Monday and Friday from 3 July until 28 September. I started looking to see how these will fit into the schedule and find that there is no Monday SEN-DUB from 6 July until 28 September - very odd.
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Trains

I looked at options to fly to London Southend this weekend only to find for the 3rd consecutive time that trains are not running due to engineering works.

Can I ask to those that know, are there engineering works every weekend or have I just been unfortunate on 3 ocassions?

The second time this happened I emailed the airport and they said you'd need to contact the railway company.
This used to happen at Stansted years ago, so much so I just never bother using STN. SEN can be a pleasant change to LHR & LGW...and often at very competitive prices.
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Old 14th Feb 2020, 21:11
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Originally Posted by EI-BUD
I looked at options to fly to London Southend this weekend only to find for the 3rd consecutive time that trains are not running due to engineering works.

Can I ask to those that know, are there engineering works every weekend or have I just been unfortunate on 3 ocassions?

The second time this happened I emailed the airport and they said you'd need to contact the railway company.
This used to happen at Stansted years ago, so much so I just never bother using STN. SEN can be a pleasant change to LHR & LGW...and often at very competitive prices.
The engineering work will finally finish on the weekend of March 21/22, although there will be one further weekend of final closure on April 18-19 for drainage purposes. Thank goodness for that.
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Old 14th Feb 2020, 21:46
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Thanks Aurigny
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Old 14th Feb 2020, 22:02
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[QUOTE=aurigny72;10687832]The engineering work will finally finish on the weekend of March 21/22, although there will be one further weekend of final closure on April 18-19 for drainage purposes. Thank goodness for that.[/QUOTE
Sorry, it won't .

The routine work that every railway requires is now carried out during weekend shutdowns because this is so more cost effective than getting a small army of people to do the work between the last train and the first train next day and reduces the risk to the contractors of penalties for overrunning works. It's a scandal that's been going on for the last 10-15 years with the excuse they are "upgrading the network"



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Old 15th Feb 2020, 00:57
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Not helped by the fact that there is only 2 tracks rather than 4.
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Old 17th Feb 2020, 13:17
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I reckon Hs 2 would be cheaper than whacking 2 extra lines through some of that real estate
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Old 18th Feb 2020, 07:19
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Originally Posted by brian_dromey
Thats quite a high number.
I wonder if the methodology used is quite right, given the gap is so large? Have they taken all passengers through the terminal and all users through the airport station? Not all station users will be airport passengers, there might be a fair number of employees and commuters too. Even if there are relatively few in number if the average computer is doing 4 journeys a week that will soon mount up - especially over a short sample period.
You raised those interesting points when I reported in post number 3799 that 46% of SEN passengers used the train. The Airport Consultative Committee Minutes for their September 2019 meeting say that "The airport has commissioned the CAA to conduct continual passenger travel surveys in the airport departures area." Assuming it was the result of one of these CAA surveys that was being reported on, that would suggest that only air travellers, and not any other users of the trains, would have been surveyed.
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Old 19th Feb 2020, 13:46
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Just tried booking a return flight from Southend - Aberdeen in May, all dates show as sold out, believe that usually means the end of a route ​​
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