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Old 2nd Jul 2019, 10:48
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This May, pax numbers to destinations now served by both FR and EZY have soared compared to last year.

Alicante up 141%
Faro up 100%
Malaga up 87%
Palma Mallorca up 126%

Does anyone believe that EZY have failed to exploint the full potential of these routes? Or by keeping capacity below demand did they achieve full aircraft and high yield before the competition came along?

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Old 2nd Jul 2019, 15:55
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Originally Posted by DC3 Dave View Post
This May, pax numbers to destinations now served by both FR and EZY have soared compared to last year.

Alicante up 141%
Faro up 100%
Malaga up 87%
Palma Mallorca up 126%

Does anyone believe that EZY have failed to exploint the full potential of these routes? Or by keeping capacity below demand did they achieve full aircraft and high yield before the competition came along?
Yes i believe EZY have failed to exploit those routes and also over the last eight years of ops at SEN not increased the number of aircraft and routes to their full potential, its been only 3 or 4 aircraft based at various times. If they could have increased their SEN base by at least another two A319s/20s then maybe they would not have had Ryanair starting up a base here, but who knows?. Certainly the competition on those sun routes is good for the traveling public.
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Old 2nd Jul 2019, 19:57
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Old 2nd Jul 2019, 21:30
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Originally Posted by aurigny72 View Post
Yes i believe EZY have failed to exploit those routes and also over the last eight years of ops at SEN not increased the number of aircraft and routes to their full potential, its been only 3 or 4 aircraft based at various times. If they could have increased their SEN base by at least another two A319s/20s then maybe they would not have had Ryanair starting up a base here, but who knows?. Certainly the competition on those sun routes is good for the traveling public.
Maybe Easyjet were aware of Southend's inability to handle more than a couple of aircraft at a time which has been proven by the arrival of Ryanair?

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Old 3rd Jul 2019, 04:31
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Originally Posted by Double Hydco View Post
No tech stops as far as I can see and the two departures to Southern Europe that departed after 1pm where almost full......
there were certainly offloads on sunday so I would presume Saturday too although I was not working to verify.
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Old 3rd Jul 2019, 07:27
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Originally Posted by Pain in the R's View Post
Maybe Easyjet were aware of Southend's inability to handle more than a couple of aircraft at a time which has been proven by the arrival of Ryanair?
And your evidence for that please?
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Old 3rd Jul 2019, 07:27
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Numbers maybe up but I bet the yield has gone just as far in the opposite direction. Great for the self loading freight but unsustainable for the operators in the end.
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Old 3rd Jul 2019, 07:37
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Originally Posted by Captain_Caveman View Post


there were certainly offloads on sunday so I would presume Saturday too although I was not working to verify.
Sunday was considerably cooler than the Saturday. I wonder what the temperature cut-off point is before flights are load limited due to the runway/climb out limitations? Does anyone know?
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Old 3rd Jul 2019, 09:56
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Originally Posted by Expressflight View Post
I don't follow your logic there I'm afraid. How could Loganair responsibly tell pax they can check-in up to 20 minutes before flight departure when at the top of SEN's website home page is a notice declaring "Please ensure that you arrive at least 2 hours before your scheduled time of departure.".
I turned up a couple of days ago to three people ahead of me at security. Which knocks on the head the idea you always need to turn up -2hrs before the flight
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Old 3rd Jul 2019, 10:14
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It would appear that Woodford has finally exited his Stobart position.. probably the only liquid stock his fund owned !!!!!
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Old 3rd Jul 2019, 14:03
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Originally Posted by AirportPlanner1 View Post


I turned up a couple of days ago to three people ahead of me at security. Which knocks on the head the idea you always need to turn up -2hrs before the flight
A pointless post as it would depend on what time you turned up Vs the number of flights departing around your departure time. Maybe you should contact the airport and tell them that their official advise is all wrong?

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Old 3rd Jul 2019, 14:30
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I used to reckon that it was ok to turn up at the airport out 35 mins before the flight was due to depart with my boarding card already printed off as it always seemed to be ok. Then one day the security queue was significantly longer than normal and it didn't turn out to be ok. Being required to turn up a full 2 hours in advance is just a bit of a**e covering on behalf of the airport, but maybe best not to cut things too fine...

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Old 3rd Jul 2019, 14:36
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Originally Posted by Pain in the R's View Post
A pointless post as it would depend on what time you turned up Vs the number of flights departing around your departure time. Maybe you should contact the airport and tell them that their official advise is all wrong?
Your comments about SEN seem to be very bitter and angry, please tell us if you had an unfortunate experience there, or is it that you just don't want the airport to succeed?
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Old 3rd Jul 2019, 16:38
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Originally Posted by Planespeaking View Post

Your comments about SEN seem to be very bitter and angry, please tell us if you had an unfortunate experience there, or is it that you just don't want the airport to succeed?
Check out his user name and you will understand why he's always moaning!
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Old 3rd Jul 2019, 17:26
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Originally Posted by Planespeaking View Post

Your comments about SEN seem to be very bitter and angry, please tell us if you had an unfortunate experience there, or is it that you just don't want the airport to succeed?
I think what you are saying is that I don't wear rose tinted glasses and come out with the bull sh!t. If Southend wants to keep its favourite airport status it needs to stay ahead of the curve. I can't help but feel awards were presented when passenger numbers were really low and were lapped up here as though Stobart was doing something special. Now with the airport at half capacity passengers are being reported as missing flights. No point pretending it isn't happening with your claims that only 3 people were in front of you in the security queue. This is something that the airport should be addressing.
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Old 4th Jul 2019, 08:55
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Extensive coverage of the "opening" of CAX on nationwide BBC Breakfast this morning including footage of the departure of the first LM flight to DUB. It was mentioned that CAX-DUB is currently the best selling of the three routes on offer The inaugural CAX-SEN takes place later today.
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Old 4th Jul 2019, 12:49
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And here's the Echo's take on it. Not quite right as the Southend flights haven't launched yet (not until later today) but then it is the notoriously incorrect Echo!

https://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/177...g-new-airport/
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Old 4th Jul 2019, 16:36
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The inbound 340 from CAX seems to have got well soaked by the water arch on its inaugural landing at SEN......... A sign of good luck for the service, I hope.
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Old 4th Jul 2019, 17:56
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Good stuff.. no matter how small some people may consider the route these traditions are great and should be maintained
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Old 5th Jul 2019, 15:12
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Logan Air circling

Does anyone know why the Logonair from ABZ has been circling and not landing?
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