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Old 10th Apr 2019, 20:19
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Only into the first week of RYR ops then & diversions away.

Increased costings for RYR already so one wonders if Stobart have underwritten those likely extra costs at SEN in the contract small print?
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Old 10th Apr 2019, 20:39
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Originally Posted by southside bobby View Post
Only into the first week of RYR ops then & diversions away.

Increased costings for RYR already so one wonders if Stobart have underwritten those likely extra costs at SEN in the contract small print?
It's what's known as wx diversions SSB. Like sometimes when SEN receives them when other airports are closed due to weather.
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Old 10th Apr 2019, 20:41
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Originally Posted by southside bobby View Post
Only into the first week of RYR ops then & diversions away.

Increased costings for RYR already so one wonders if Stobart have underwritten those likely extra costs at SEN in the contract small print?
Is it any of our business to find out these things?
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Old 10th Apr 2019, 23:08
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Originally Posted by 737aviator View Post
Autobrake max & max reverse mandatory. 3 is nowhere near enough on a 737 to stop in 1000m with average landing weights.
Are you taking into account that only the sfp operates at SEN? Until FR started to take delivery of this variant a year ago, their 738's were considered non-starters because of the 1604m LDA.
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Old 11th Apr 2019, 07:20
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737 - 800NG SFP auto brake
From my pal who drives them out of LGW for another carrier

The auto brake selector knob (rotary switch) has four settings: RTO (rejected takeoff), 1, 2, 3 and MAX (maximum). Settings 1, 2 and 3 and RTO can be armed by turning the selector; but, MAX can only be set by simultaneously pulling the selector knob outwards and turning to the right; this is a safety feature to eliminate the chance that the selector is set to MAX accidentally.

auto brake will engage upon landing, when -
auto brake selector knob (1, 2, 3 or MAX) has been set;
The thrust levers are in the idle position immediately prior to touchdown and the main wheels spin-up.

If the auto brake has not been selected before landing, it can still be engaged after touchdown, providing the aircraft has not decelerated below 60 knots.

To disengage the autobrake system, do one of the following -

(i) The autobrake selector knob is turned to OFF
(ii) The speed brake lever is moved to the 'down' detent position;
(iii) The thrust levers are advanced from idle to forward thrust (except during the first 3 seconds of landing); or,
(iv) Either pilot applies manual braking.

For shorter and wet runways, and/or in high crosswinds flight crews may prefer (or have to, if a SOP) to use the autobrake rather than use manual braking.
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Old 11th Apr 2019, 08:54
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EZY winter schedule published. BUD returns.
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Old 12th Apr 2019, 23:44
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4 aircraft still? Any gaps for a 5th?
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Old 13th Apr 2019, 00:08
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Originally Posted by DC3 Dave View Post
Are you taking into account that only the sfp operates at SEN? Until FR started to take delivery of this variant a year ago, their 738's were considered non-starters because of the 1604m LDA.
Flap40/Auto brake 3 will get you stopped in around 1600m(or slightly less even) on a dry runway with a typical 60ton weight in an SFP. Anything less than that or a wet runway needs MAX to comfortably() make it.
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Old 13th Apr 2019, 08:21
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Originally Posted by Tom! View Post

Flap40/Auto brake 3 will get you stopped in around 1600m(or slightly less even) on a dry runway with a typical 60ton weight in an SFP. Anything less than that or a wet runway needs MAX to comfortably() make it.
I'm not sure if flap 40 is approved to use with FR? Do you fly with them Tom>? Many thanks..
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Old 19th Apr 2019, 06:30
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SEN security clearance check area extremely busy this morning. Very long queues backed up to top of escalator from ground floor checkin desks to departures floor.

Not all of the x-ray scanner lanes open given this is a major bank holiday weekend with mass movement of people.

Repeated final boarding calls as clearly pax are being caught up in the security clearance queues. A lot of stressed out passengers, people getting fed up.

Security staff doing their very best to get passengers through.

FR2184 Alicante and EZY7421 Palma both receiving a lot of final call notices. Sounds like some passengers may not make it through security queues in time to make final boarding call requests.

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Old 19th Apr 2019, 09:28
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Oooops….& there goes the reputation,it was simple running a terminal with little throughput at peak periods & collecting the plaudits.
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Old 19th Apr 2019, 09:35
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Originally Posted by mik3bravo View Post
SEN security clearance check area extremely busy this morning. Very long queues backed up to top of escalator from ground floor checkin desks to departures floor.

Not all of the x-ray scanner lanes open given this is a major bank holiday weekend with mass movement of people.

Repeated final boarding calls as clearly pax are being caught up in the security clearance queues. A lot of stressed out passengers, people getting fed up.

Security staff doing their very best to get passengers through.

FR2184 Alicante and EZY7421 Palma both receiving a lot of final call notices. Sounds like some passengers may not make it through security queues in time to make final boarding call requests.
This is not good for SEN reputation as a quick and stress free airport to get through, especially if some PAX have indeed missed their flights because of the long wait to get through security. What happened to the terminal expansion plans i wonder, this should have been started during the winter months i would have thought.
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Old 19th Apr 2019, 09:36
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Originally Posted by southside bobby View Post
Oooops….& there goes the reputation,it was simple running a terminal with little throughput at peak periods & collecting the plaudits.
Agreed - was always going to be a probabilty with the added growth. It's easy to have a nice pleasant, relaxing terminal when there's nobody in it. The challenge now is how Stobart handle this next phase of expansion - can they keep everybody happy (including the shareholders!)
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Old 19th Apr 2019, 10:19
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I suppose it’s a good problem to have. I’d be worried if it wasn’t heaving at this time of the year
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Old 19th Apr 2019, 10:31
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It IS a good problem to have, but it IS still a problem and IF it is down to a lack of staffing then Stobart need to buck their ideas up.
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Old 19th Apr 2019, 10:34
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To put it into perspective, how long (timewise) were people queuing? I've waited a good 20 mins at LGW often enough and on a few occasions 30 mins at EDI.
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Old 19th Apr 2019, 10:37
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Originally Posted by southside bobby View Post
Oooops….& there goes the reputation,it was simple running a terminal with little throughput at peak periods & collecting the plaudits.
Meanwhile LTN and STN I presume are oasis' of peace and tranquility✈️✈️ !!

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Old 19th Apr 2019, 10:49
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Originally Posted by Barling Magna View Post
It IS a good problem to have, but it IS still a problem and IF it is down to a lack of staffing then Stobart need to buck their ideas up.
Sums it up in a single sentence. They clearly knew this was coming with warnings to arrive 2 hours before departure flashing up on the website. Given Stobart still expect to double numbers within 3 years they will need to act soon before the airport's decent reputation starts to go sour.

It is good to see that this morning's first wave all departed on time. All, that is, except DUB which left 5 minutes late. Could it be that mik3bravo was having a cheeky Guinness before boarding?




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Old 19th Apr 2019, 11:22
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Originally Posted by Barling Magna View Post
It IS a good problem to have, but it IS still a problem and IF it is down to a lack of staffing then Stobart need to buck their ideas up.
I have read no evidence of anybody missing their flight. I am sure the airlines will complain to Stobart if this happens.
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Old 19th Apr 2019, 11:33
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What is the capacity of the security check area at SEN ? The building's architecture means that it seems a bit of a future bottleneck without any obvious easy way of expansion of security check capacity long term - apart from major remodelling of the airport
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